NOD32 Detections Failing

Discussion in 'ESET NOD32 Antivirus' started by krypton_harsh, Sep 15, 2008.

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  1. dorgane

    dorgane Registered Member

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    Antivir is more detecting and it is free
    Nod32 is Paying, it should be better
     
  2. Causes Drowsiness

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    Gendal, Zlob and ShipUp.

    These are files I had downloaded from a dubious site to test Avira, AVG and NOD. The only one to detect them was Avira. =/

    This was on both access to the file and on initiated scans.
     
  3. Fajo

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    I don't believe they do a good job and detecting Vanduo also. but I could be mustakin.
     
  4. GAN

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    Where did you find the report to prove that statement? All the tests i have seen so far is for Antivir Premium (which is not free). I have not seen a single test where the free edition og antivir is compared to nod32.
    Also "free" doesn't mean that the product is no good. There are a lot of examples where freeware might be just as good and sometimes even better then other similar software that is not free. There is no rule that says if you have to pay for it then it has to be better.....in that case you would buy the most expensive antivirus software to get the best, but that's not how it works.

    If nod32 is number 1, 5 or 10 at the moment i don't know, but don't understand why some people find is surprising that nod32 fail to keep the number 1 position every week of the year. There are a lot of antivirus software available and they all work to improve the detection rate. So it would be very odd if nod32 managed to stay in the top 3 all the time.

    I also have to agree that is seems like Avira have a higher detection rate at the moment and also a lot more false positives. That might change though since they most likely won't keep that position forever. Maybe nod32 is a bit behind right now, but i don't think it's like they are way behind and something to worry about at the moment.
     
  5. krypton_harsh

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    I think i have a better option and suggestion for NOD32,

    why not appoint some LAB - TECHNICIANS who just compare and use the techs of " What other AVS is catching and what NOD32 isn't "

    check their virus update database and added detections, compare it with u;r detections find the missing detection and add it to database,

    and appoint more man power to add detections faster,

    i still believe that ESET is the best in business, but best is one which stays best for longer, not the best for one time and goes down and down and down, and starts all over...

    regards
     
  6. Marcos

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    Oh, that explains why a couple of other AVs started reporting FPs when we had some :D
     
  7. xan K

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    interesting! when should we expect to see this? :eek:
    believe it or not, this post gave hope to stay with Eset. :)
     
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  8. splicer707

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    :thumb: :thumb: Wow. Great news, NOD32 is getting even better!
    Is there a new version of NOD32 due sometime in the near'ish future?
     
  9. Fajo

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    Two things.

    1. In recent tests Avira has caught 10's of thousands that you have missed. only stating this sense it was brought up.

    2. Marcos I am a long time eset fan, always will be. But for now it doesn't perform the way it should. Frankly, I don't feel I can trust it from personal experience. It keeps missing way to much that others are catching. I know no AV is 100% but when the mass majority are catching it and eset is still missing it. I have a hard time defending the product. If your product looks bad it also makes me look bad for recommending it or even installing it on personal or corporate networks. My main question, is there any proof to back up the hype or are we just left in the dark why wait on words ?

    Thanks Marcos for your time.
     
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  10. Kayracc

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    I could probably find you quite a few samples in about 5 minutes that you'll never encounter in the real world, and actually probably have no real ability to spread unless your looking

    avira/kaspersky/etc will add them, eset won't, catch 22, you won't ever see the malware, but do you want it added?
     
  11. Fajo

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    LOL if only that was the way tests were done.

    anyways it would take all of 2 sec to make a Generic detection that would detect those. still no excuse.

    Thank you come again.
     
  12. Marcos

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    Huh, generic detection in 2 seconds? I've seen cases where creating generic detections takes 1-2 days if it has to be perfect with an extremly low chance of producing FP :D
     
  13. demonio

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    Between how long we can see these improvements?
     
  14. Fajo

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    Then get to creating some... why you are at it please answer my other question. :D
     
  15. Kyle1420

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    I don't see the point of adding detection for malware that is not "Active"
    I agree in what ESET is doing and adding the important malware and leaving the malware we will never come across left out.
     
  16. Phenom

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    Uh, I'm not saying NOD32 is bad, but I just got Avira and it removed trojans that ESET didn't. I do agree with the people saying the detection has dropped look at the latest av comparatives report, ESET got ADVANCED score, Avira got ADVANCED+, Spyware Doctor detects more trojans and spyware than ESET and Avira. You got to agree with Causes Drowsiness though, he just saying the facts, just look at the test results at av comparatives Norton did better and Kaspersky, even avast. I don't expect ESET to be av of the year this year but I'm sure ESET will improve, I won't be suprised to see Avira,Kaspersky,or even more suprising Norton to be av of the year.
     
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  17. Kessler

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    Sadly I'm with you. I have 14 months left on 2 subscriptions and I just got sick of having to install avira free to get rid of all the nasties nod32 is missing. Eset is taking a major downturn and I hope they can recover quickly before their reputation is ruined.
     
  18. trjam

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    It could well be a rumor , don't forget that .

    By who (if not a secret) ?

    "They" - you mean the possible new vir analysts Marcos mentioned about ?
     
  20. Zetelo

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    It that was true, then the company would go down for sure. Let's just hope it's not.
     
  21. Marcos

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    I, too, wonder where did you hear that? Don't believe gossips ;)
     
  22. trjam

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    I didnt say it was true, but I trust my source. People come and go from vendors all the time so it isnt new. And I am sure that Eset will have no problems replacing anyone that did leave. But I would be real interested in your sending me a PM with those screenshots from Virus Total of where you found things that others didnt. Seriously.:)
     
  23. Marcos

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    I know only one person from the viruslab that has left ESET, it was for personal reasons. Believe me and not those who spread such gossips, I work at ESET and the viruslab is a few steps away from my office :)
     
  24. trjam

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    I have no reason to think otherwise since you say so, it is your word. Just as it was your word today that stated if it wasnt for the policy here you could show us numerous times where Eset detected things that the other biggies could not. I think you said we would be shocked. So again, send them in a PM to me, or I will gladly give you my email address. Because if it is true, then I will spread your word, I do have 3 licences, but until you do, those words, as the ones above, have no validity.
     
  25. Medank

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    wow to all you guys take it easy,
    it's not just detection-rate now version3 of Eset has new antispyware and Firewall and Antispam, they also must be improved and fixed the firewall and antispyware.

    All AV's goes up and down sometimes, Eset has improved the Firewall and Antispyware alot, the firewall is still not 100% secured but still good, maybe thats why the detection rate of viruses has not been good latest.
     
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