Nod32 Detection

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  1. chaos16

    chaos16 Registered Member

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    I just want to know

    Is it true that Nod32 is the best antivirus for removing viruses and worms??

    But not at all good for removing trojans??

    Coz i used to use nod32 but then i went to KAV and KAV found 2 trojans that Nod32 coulden't findo_O?
     
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  3. mercurie

    mercurie A Friendly Creature

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    My thinking on this: add BoClean to Nod32 and you are good to go my friend ;)
     
  4. hollywoodpc

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    Hi Mercurie .
    Adding any decent AT is really required for top notch protection . I agree 100 % . That goes for ANY AV .
     
  5. mercurie

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    Nice see you around too Hollywoodpc,
    Yes. I agree AT is needed to round out ones protection. BoClean just happens to be the one I like. There certainly are others a few other protection licenses listed there with all your posts in fact. :)
     
  6. hollywoodpc

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  7. chaos16

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    i think that KAV and nod32 are roughly equal they have tehre on adavntage nod32 has the advantage that its much lighter then KAV and KAV has the advantage that it has a better trojan detection
     
  8. Firecat

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    nod32 also cost less than KAV...
     
  9. bigc73542

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    That would be true if all you were wanting to detect is viri and some trojans. But Kav detects much more than that. nod might eventually catch Kav on detection but they have a long way to go for now.
     
  10. Firecat

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    Yes, KAV has the best overall detection especially when you consider adware/spyware/riskware and other dangerous stuff.
     
  11. Stan999

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    Taking a look at http://virusscan.jotti.org/ over the past few days they all have a ways to go even KAV.

    Last piece of malware found was Trojan.Downloader.Delf.Jy in cartao.scr, detected by:

    Scanner Malware name
    AntiVir X
    Avast X
    AVG Antivirus X
    BitDefender Trojan.Downloader.Delf.JI
    ClamAV X
    Dr.Web X
    F-Prot Antivirus X
    Fortinet X
    Kaspersky Anti-Virus X
    mks_vir Trojan.Downloader.Delf.Jy
    NOD32 X
    Norman Virus Control X


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    Last piece of malware found was BehavesLike:Trojan.Downloader in ifc.exe, detected by:

    Scanner Malware name
    AntiVir X
    Avast X
    AVG Antivirus X
    BitDefender BehavesLike:Trojan.Downloader
    ClamAV X
    Dr.Web X
    F-Prot Antivirus unknown virus
    Fortinet X
    Kaspersky Anti-Virus X
    mks_vir X
    NOD32 probably unknown NewHeur_PE
    Norman Virus Control Sandbox: W32/Downloader


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    Last piece of malware found was Dropped:Win32.Worm.Kiph.A in main.exe, detected by:

    Scanner Malware name
    AntiVir X
    Avast X
    AVG Antivirus X
    BitDefender Dropped:Win32.Worm.Kiph.A
    ClamAV X
    Dr.Web X
    F-Prot Antivirus unknown virus
    Fortinet X
    Kaspersky Anti-Virus X
    mks_vir Win32
    NOD32 probably unknown NewHeur_PE
    Norman Virus Control Sandbox: W32/P2PWorm


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    Last piece of malware found was W32/SDBot.CWI in rfc.exe, detected by:

    Scanner Malware name Time taken
    AntiVir Worm/SdBot-43744 0.39 seconds
    Avast Win32:SdBot-1245 1.53 seconds
    AVG Antivirus IRC/BackDoor.SdBot.154.AT 0.54 seconds
    BitDefender X 0.53 seconds
    ClamAV X 0.61 seconds
    Dr.Web X 0.91 seconds
    F-Prot Antivirus X 0.13 seconds
    Fortinet X 0.45 seconds
    Kaspersky Anti-Virus X 1.03 seconds
    mks_vir Win32 0.23 seconds
    NOD32 X 0.49 seconds
    Norman Virus Control W32/SDBot.CWI 0.23 seconds


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    Last piece of malware found was Dropped:Trojan.Agent.DN in m2.exe, detected by:

    Scanner Malware name Time taken
    AntiVir X 0.42 seconds
    Avast X 1.53 seconds
    AVG Antivirus X 0.56 seconds
    BitDefender Dropped:Trojan.Agent.DN 0.60 seconds
    ClamAV Trojan.Dropper.Purityscan.F 0.66 seconds
    Dr.Web X 0.94 seconds
    F-Prot Antivirus X 0.18 seconds
    Fortinet X 0.49 seconds
    Kaspersky Anti-Virus X 1.07 seconds
    mks_vir X 0.47 seconds
    NOD32 Win32/TrojanDropper.PurityScan.G.gen 0.60 seconds
    Norman Virus Control Sandbox: W32/Malware 22.03

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    Last piece of malware found was probably unknown NewHeur_PE in hmzz.exe, detected by:

    Scanner Malware name Time taken
    AntiVir BDS/Optix.Pro.13.28 0.81 seconds
    Avast Win32:Optix-J 3.08 seconds
    AVG Antivirus X 1.12 seconds
    BitDefender Backdoor.OptixPro.1.Gen 1.16 seconds
    ClamAV Trojan.PWS.Wexd 1.54 seconds
    Dr.Web X 1.71 seconds
    F-Prot Antivirus X 0.19 seconds
    Fortinet X 0.88 seconds
    Kaspersky Anti-Virus X 2.12 seconds
    mks_vir Trojan.Optix.Pro.13 0.43 seconds
    NOD32 probably unknown NewHeur_PE 1.07 seconds
    Norman Virus Control X 0.64 seconds
     
  12. Firecat

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    Ooohh....MKS is not as bad as it seems...seems it can hold its own against even KAV uh?
     
  13. Wolfe

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    Seems like NOD32 outperforms KAV as well.

    That said putting some samples up for examination isn't actually trustworthy overall. av-comparatives is a reliable source for example.

    Wolfe
     
  14. Firefighter

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    Unfortunately this doesn't shock me at all. I can throw more than 100 samples with a mention as "Last piece of malware found was...", but SURPRISE, only Kaspersky was that av that detected them all and the rest were far away. Almost the same I can do with McAfee VSE 8.0i too. And with all other well performed scanners too.

    This is typical, when we are advertising something but these kind of examples are far from RAMDOMLY picked samples.

    Best regards,
    Firefighter!
     
  15. se7engreen

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    Six malware detections from Jotti's is not even close to an indication of overall detection rates for any of these AV's. I think the point that Stan999 is trying to make is that all vendors need improvement and no single AV is a catch-all for malware.

    EDIT: Sorry, I guess this has already been stated :)
     
  16. RejZoR

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    But in general you couldn't get more random samples than on Jotti.
     
  17. chaos16

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    so in the end nod32 wont give better protection then KAV but will be lighter for ur computer.

    But the new KAV version 6.0 will be lighter i think and faster plus it will have better detection then any other antivirus so i guess i will stay with KAV and the future KAV
     
  18. Firecat

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    And it has the behaviour blocker too...KAV 6 seems to be shaping up very well.
     
  19. Don Pelotas

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    Yes, that one is shaping up quite nicely... :)
     
  20. chaos16

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    Wat feature is the behaviour blockero_O
     
  21. Firecat

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    chaos,

    Dont you remember my PM? Its a technology which will prevent suspicious action from executing on your computer. Kinda like a heuristic engine, but works only realtime. And its really good at its job too.

    Firecat :)
     
  22. chaos16

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    lately the update of nod32 hasen't been doing very well as previous updates??

    look

    http://www.eset.com/support/info.htm#CurVersion

    compared to NOD32 - v.1.1018 (20050305)

    And as Nod32 doesn't do that well in trojans why don't they pay other trojan companies to give them there signatures for trojanso_O
     
  23. Blackcat

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    NOD has improved tremendously in trojan detection in the last 6-12 months. For example, the recent results over at av-comparatives show that for trojans and backdoors it was on par with McAfee and ahead of Dr Web. Both of the latter AV's are well-known trojan slayers!!!! And these results have been confirmed by some of FireFighter's recent results here.

    So not quite KAV standards yet, but not too shabby either ;)
     
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