NOD 32 plus Kaspersky overkill?

Discussion in 'other anti-virus software' started by colt45allstar, Jun 11, 2006.

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  1. colt45allstar

    colt45allstar Registered Member

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    I'll be honest... I'm anal in terms of securing my pc.... very anal. I tend to perhaps 'overprotect' a bit.. but I suppose it's better than underprotecting.

    Recently I finished a trial of Kaspersky antivirus and fell in love. This was after being a dedicated Norton user for years... falling out of favor with them and then giving the Computer Associates backed zone alarm anti virus a spin. (was decent enough, but wouldn't consider it great by any means.. so went to the firewall only Zone Alarm Pro)

    I'm now on a trial with NOD32 and in love with it as well. In terms of prefering it over Kaspersky.. that's tough... as both seemed tremendous to me... and from researching the topic are the two consensus top choices it would seem.

    My question is as follows:

    Do any of you utilize both NOD32 and Kaspersky? Furthermore would using one as a full time anti virus and one strictly as an on demand anti virus potientially cause conflicts?... as the title says would it be overkill?

    Thanks everyone for any feedback you can give. Assuming it's indeed possible to utilize both without conflicts, that's what I'll do. That way if a nasty virus trojan or other form of malware gets past one, I'll have the other one to hopefully take care of it. Just wanted to hear it was ok before purchasing both.
     
  2. FatalChaos

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    I'd say overkill. Assuming you are paying for your subscirptions, it's too much money to be worth it. Both are very good antiviruses.
     
  3. lifehacker

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    Using two antiviruses at the same time can cause problems, as well as a huge memory usage. I would suggest you stick to one antivirus. Both NOD32 and Kaspersky are very good antiviruses, Kaspersky has the better signatures while NOD32 the better heuristics. NOD32 also uses less resources then Kaspersky.
     
  4. BlueZannetti

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    I agree with what's already been said. Both are excellent, top tier choices, but really should be run solo. Either will offer excellent protection. I recommend either without qualification. A fair amount of the decision comes down to how well either works on your machine, how they coexist with the remainder of your system, and items of personal preference (GUI style, application dialogs, etc.). In many instances, users do not see overwhelming differences here either.

    Blue
     
  5. colt45allstar

    colt45allstar Registered Member

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    So is it fair to assume that part of the decision could come down to whether one prefers a more signature based antivirus, or whether one prefers a more heuristics based antivirus? I mean obviously they both utilize both heuristics and signatures.. but one's better at one and the other better at the other.

    The money thing doesn't bother me. Yes it would get expensive to renew both.. but only once every year or two and that would be worth it imho to get the best possible protection.

    That being said... that's still a fair point and everything else said makes alot of sense as well... so I'll go with one.

    I'll wait the remaining 27 days on my NOD32 and then make a decision.

    Never thought picking an antivirus software could be this hard :D
     
  6. WSFuser

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    another factor in choosing between the two, should be resource usage. does each AV run well on your computer?

    also what u can do is keep nod32, and run KAV's online scanner for those occasional scans.
     
  7. BlueZannetti

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    In part. NOD32 does appear to have a bit of a lead in the general area of hueristics (see for example the Retrospective test results at www.av-comparatives.org). However, in a practical sense KL mitigates this minor advantage with a very rapid response strategy covering new malware. The latest version of KAV/KIS also incorporates some additional wrinkles in the form of their proactive defense module. See this thread (post #18 has a link) for a bit of background.
    It can be an emotionally trying event given the relatively little up front cost :)

    Blue
     
  8. JerryM

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    If you want to "run" both, the best solution is to use NOD, and then use the on-line scanner of Kaspersky.
    I think that you will find that no matter which you use, the on-line scanner will not find anything. At least that has been my own experience using KAV 6, Bit Defender 9, and Avast Home.

    No harm in reinforcing the fact that your computer is free from serious malware.

    As far as I know NOD does not have an on-line scanner, and in my view the scanners from Kaspersky and Bit Defender are top notch on-line scanners, hence my thought that NOD is the one to buy.

    It is always of the utmost importance to determine that a certain AV will run well on your system considering the other applications you are using.

    Jerry
     
  9. TonyW

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    Another thing to consider is the way the programs work and display themselves like Blue said about GUI, style etc. You might like the split approach given in NOD, meaning separate components like AMON, IMON, or you may prefer the all-in-one interface method. The choice is yours!
     
  10. starfish_001

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    I'd agree with others overkill. I have both on different machines handy if I have a problem as KAV has a Bart PE disk or could swap licsaround.

    If you are sure that you want a main AV and an on demand backup up I'd go for:.... NOD with the free version of Bitdefender or KAV online scanner. ;)
     
  11. RejZoR

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    Personally i think you should go with KAV6...
    Killer signature detection and outstanding behavior blocker. Plus very slick interface and extra features.
     
  12. ErikAlbert

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    I tried both in trial mode and NOD32 would be my choice, but paying for security is a problem for me, except for a router and firewall.
     
  13. VikingStorm

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    If you are so inclined to buy both. I have been able to run both real-time successfully (and it feels like I am only running a single AV actually resource wise).
    You can run the KAV6 RTM without the Web Antivirus, and then just use NOD32's IMON with AMON disabled. Since 99.99% of malware comes from the internet, that should be the only barrier that needs a double scanning (which would have happened anyways, except it would be less redundant than scanning with the same engine).
     
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    I dual boot two XP installations, with NOD on one and KAV on the other, and can use one or the other as an on demand scanner for the one not runnning it resident.

    Regards - Charles
     
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    Single AV installed....if you need a second or third or fourth opinion to help quelch the sleepless nights of worrying...there are plenty of online scanners.
     
  16. ErikAlbert

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    Another relaxing method is :
    1. Having one advanced+ AV scanner.
    2. Reboot every morning with a clean FDISR-snapshot, based on an off-line installation.
     
  17. HandsOff

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    Colt-

    I was in the same position as you and I went with NOD32. I also had and idea for a backup scanner, other than the online variety and that is to download the MWAV Toolkit. it is a free utility that scans but does not removes infected files. In some cases all you need is the detection information. The AV is by kaspersky, and there are additional components as well.

    download here: http://www.mwti.net/products/download_center.asp?pid=

    if you want (it is at the bottom of the screen)

    I'll warn you from the start it takes a sharp eye and a keen mind to understand the differences of all the escan, and other tools this site provides, but the free tool does a very thorough scan and includes many different products.


    -HandsOff


    P.S. - Have downloaded, but not tried it yet. Fact is due to my A/V testing I have been just about as thoroughly scanned as possible already!

    P.P.S. - I'm not even sure if you have to sign up in order to use the free toolkit. But if you want a hard look for malware, this tool is hard to beat. BTW I did sign up, and have even had registered products from them which is why I don't know if you have to sign up. I can't remember!
     
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    You have just to decide which one is more attractive to you, and that you fall in love with...and your system still works smoothly. These two are very good and has high detection rates, any of them will just suffice. One resident anti-virus running is enough together w/ a back-up on-demand scanner will be ok.
     
  19. dawgg

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    both AVs are great!... i wouldnt hesitate to recomend either, but wont recomend to use both simultaneously... peformance issues! if you reallly want both, i recomend nod32 activley scanning and KAV on-demand... or run both of them simultaneously, but add eachother to eachother's exclusion list (trusted applications... do not scan)... this'l make your peformance better, but its still gonna run slower than normal
     
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    Hi, if u want two, get two PCs in any way. One laptop and one desktop!!
     
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  23. tayres

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    There is a point of view for those who don't always take proper caution that using more than one anti-virus scanner (one on-access, another on-demand only) makes sense.
     
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  24. HandsOff

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    Having a backup scanner is possibly not the same as having two on demand scanners? I hope I'm not misusing the terms. Like I said, with MWAV you could disable NOD32 and use it to do scans. Its appeal to me is that it seems to be several tools combined into one. I am pretty sure it will detect more than Kaspersky, though I'd have to run it again to see what versions are being run. If I ever remember to, I'll run it when I go to bed since I have vast amounts of hard drive space...Unfortunately, or fortunately there is not a lot of malware to be found...Heh, heh, I do know another persons computer that is a veritable hotbed of infections...maybe a little test is in order! It has been running a third party branded Kaspersky powered scanner...

    When I used MWAV long ago it seemed to find stuff in the registry that other scanners missed. probably just rememnants, but still, if its junk, get rid of it!


    -HandsOff
     
  25. aigle

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    BTW I never heard of it before. Anybody using this scanner?
     
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