News: [FireLion] Anti Keyloggers 2.0RC2 out for FREE testing

Discussion in 'other anti-malware software' started by LeVuHoang, Aug 17, 2008.

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  1. LeVuHoang

    LeVuHoang Registered Member

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    Glad to see you again. Thanks LowWaterMark for his discussion :cool:
    well, we've just release [FireLion] Anti Keyloggers 2.0RC2 and you can test it fully functionality for FREE.
    Code:
    Changelog 2.0 RC2:
    
    - Monitor Internet Explorer settings
    
    - Monitor autorun
    
    - Monitor 
    
    - Splitted Clipboard montior
    
    - Splitted write process
    
    - Fixed multi file extensions
    
    - Minor fixes
    
    I don't know why some of persons can not see the license on page above (?).
    I give it here:
    Download 2.0 RC2: http://the-best-soft.com/ccount/click.php?id=8
    License: 99317694-BBCE-4270-9837-E8BE3E57F4FE

    Click here to read more
     
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  2. LeVuHoang

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    It seems no one interested in keyloggers. lol
     
  3. jmonge

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    is it a keylogger or anti-keylogger?
     
  4. LeVuHoang

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    It's Anti Keyloggers
     
  5. jmonge

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    ok thanks.
    does it have a real time shield againts undetected keyloggers?
     
  6. nomarjr3

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    LeVuHoang,

    Is it better than SnoopFree??
     
  7. LeVuHoang

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    @jmonge: Yes, It can disable "on the fly" known and unknown keyloggers. It can also protect you from any applications install as auto run or changing Internet Explorer settings.
    @nomarjr3: Yes, as my personal opion (not advertising). When we tried to release this application, we should test other competitors.
    Those features it has but SnoopFree (and other products) does not have:
    - Can detect more keyloggers method. SnoopFree can't pass some test of Anti-Keylogger Tester
    - Autorun protection
    - IE protection
    - Fully support Windows Vista (SnoopFree is dead)
    - Realtime protection (scan for known and unknown keyloggers)
    - Email monitor
    - FTP monitor
    - UNC monitor
    and more... You can check our security tests here: http://the-best-soft.com/index.php?...-tests-08172008&catid=2:news&Itemid=2&lang=en

    Thanks for interested in.
     
  8. EASTER

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    No feedback yet?

    Anyone tried this say in comparison to the old snoopfree or any others? And what's your own personal opinions if any?

    EASTER
     
  9. nomarjr3

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    How about automatic updates? Does Anti Keyloggers have this feature?
    And more importantly, is it freeware?
     
  10. LeVuHoang

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    no, this can detect unknown keyloggers without database update. It's SnoopFree *like* (but not like :D).
    You can use 2.0 RC 2 for free until the latest version is released.
     
  11. jmonge

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    it sounds great product i think cause what ever try to protect user from keyloggers is good to mee:thumb:
     
  12. LeVuHoang

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    this one looks like zemana antilogger.by the way nice video:thumb:
     
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    no it doesnt.

    zemana has anti-ssl logger, screen logger, many other futures.
    zemana better than this, they work for new firewall.
     
  16. LeVuHoang

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    Yes, it doesn't. I'm sorry but I can't compare about our competitors. I just can give you an example. I used Bifrost trojan to capture the screenshot and it can capture successfully. So, you can't protect from blackhat. Here is the screenshot:
    http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/4179/bifrostxm8.png

    The Anti Keyloggers should not protect users from keyloggers, it must protect users from all type of key logging methods include trojans, malwares...

    Our application have anti screen logger (screen capture) also. And, some more functions Zemana does not have:
    - Auto run monitor (keyloggers install itself to autorun)
    - IE monitor
    - Email Monitor. Read how to detect your enemy: http://www.the-best-soft.com/lang-en/faqs/46-how-to-detect-your-enemy.html
    - UNC monitor
    ... etc
    It's not just an anti keyloggers but malware protection also.
    Here is our test with some trojan simuator: http://the-best-soft.com/lang-en/news/44-firelion-anti-keyloggers-tests-08172008.html

    We'are going to improve in the final 2.0:
    - Webcam Logger

    We still not know what is *SSL logger*, so, we can't tell anything. If we have their leaktest, we can implement it. Of course we've tested with other products before releasing a similar one. BTW, Zemana is a good one to try also.
     
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  17. jamikazu

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    LeVuHoang;

    I have bad news for you.
    Zemana renewed it's simulation tests against user mode anti-keyloggers long time ago.
    They are logging keystrokes by direct kernel calls through SYSENTER instruction without to calling any user mode win32 api.

    So your madshi based user mode hooks can not catch their keylogger tests.

    Try your self with the newest "Zemana Keylogger Test v1.2.2.38"
     
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    Last time i checked Firelion was shamefully high priced n i still think its overpriced. I have you seen lower the price 2 times allready plus a 50 percent discount over at bits de jour. When are you going 2 settle down with a fair price? You want customers no? New so so sec. software should start at 20 bucks, no more. if you want 2 make it yearly subscribtion so b it but make up your mind allready!

    btw the 50% discount 4 kaspersky on your site WOW
    Best of luck,

    Ges
     
  19. LeVuHoang

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    @jamikazu: no problem. This is normal, like Zemana can't stop Bifrost screenshot.
    Fighting keyloggers/malware is non-stop war. We're always to improve the product.
    @GES/POR: So, you think that $19.99 is acceptable price?
     
  20. BrendanK.

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    I'm sorry, but I am not impressed. I like the program as a whole, but you have not encrypted your signatures which means my antivirus' are picking your program up as a harmful application. I suggest encrypting your signature database so I along with other Avira users can use your program.
     
  21. LeVuHoang

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    @333halfevil: The database is encrypted. You can look at Data.dat in \FireLion Softwares\Anti Keyloggers. Maybe Avira has false positive, not ours.
    I've just uploaded Data.dat to virustotal.com for checking, there is not any warning about our database. You can check the test result here:

    ~EC edit: VirusTotal link removed per Policy.~
     
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  22. BrendanK.

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    It came up as one of your lib files. I can't remember the exact name, but it had lib****.dll. I got 50 pop ups saying that it contained a malicious code( yes it was a heuristic, but it should still not be flagged).

    I have just sent your file to Avira as a false positive.

    ~EC edit: VirusTotal link in quote removed per Policy.~
     
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  23. jamikazu

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    LeVuHoang;

    I don't care about zemana, i don't use it. I only use and trust comodo firewall because if the logger/spyware can not send
    the info through fw to net, it isn't danger to me.

    I don't know if zemana can catch birsoft or not. I didn't test but if you say true I will report it to zemana team and I'm sure they will fix it in the next release.

    But what you will do with the firelion next release? To learn kernel programming with delphi :)

    Zemana have a Turkish research blog and I read in their blog post long time ago that they changed their leak tests to prevent lame user mode protection systems like yours.
     
  24. LeVuHoang

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    @333halfevil: Thank you
    @jamikazu: The online keylogger can not send log to stealer but stealer can physical access to your computer. Anti Keyloggers is not just block outgoing connections.
    This is your second posts, all of them are about Zemana, it seems you know Zemana activities a lot ;).
    Regarding Delphi & driver, it maybe has DDDK but dead. BTW, if you search my previous topics, you'll see there is a version which use driver :). Our team is not just Delphi developer. But we should need to find a right solution because driver can *stuck* with PatchGuard.
    How about our next release? Of course we still continue to develop our product to protect our customers. Maybe it is not in the next release but it will have.
    If keyloggers use rootkit technology, it is the same as rootkit, not normal keyloggers. So, there will be a *lot of solutions to bypass* Zenama, I'm sure about this (driver strength ? NO. Driver with lame developers are lamer also. sorry). But this topic is not *show off* topic. Thanks for your infos about Zemana.
     
  25. BrendanK.

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    LeVu i sent you a personal message please read it.

    In Vietnamese:
    Xin đọc thông báo cá nhân (của) các bạn

    Edit: I just did a simple keylogger test, which I made, and it bypassed this completely.
     
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