new ssd ,multi os ,and BootIt BM

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  1. mantra

    mantra Registered Member

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    hi
    i would like to buy another ssd , i guess a patrol ,they are cheap but i read good reviews on the recent model

    i would like to install multiple operation system , windows 10 (no uefi) , ubuntu (no uefi ) and another os Uefi
    and i don't want that w10 can see ubuntu and the 3 os ,and vice versa

    i have windows 10 drive image, ubuntu and the other os images created with clonezilla

    i would like to connect the drive on the 6 serial cable and now as first main disk

    i have some questions
    1)
    can i install the BootIt BM boot manager on the 6 serial ata cable or should i install on the first primary ssd?

    2) shoul i install EMBR (it support 200 primary partition and they are too many , tree are enough) on the drive ? i guess i could go back in the future, i mean change embr to

    3) can i restore my windows 10 image on a embr partition ,and use clone zilla to restore my ubuntu image and another uefi image to the second and third partition ?

    thanks
     
  2. Brian K

    Brian K Imaging Specialist

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    mantra,

    It's not recommended to mix UEFI and MBR in the same computer. It can be done but not easily.

    If you want more than four primary partitions on a drive you need to use EMBR and unlimit primaries. If you use four or less primary partitions on a drive you can use EMBR or MBR and limit primaries. I use EMBR and unlimit primaries as it's more flexible.

    BIBM can be installed to any drive (HD0 is preferable) but HD0 must be EMBR.

    You can restore your current images to an EMBR drive.

    I prefer UEFI/GPT systems. It's the future. In a couple of years you won't be able to install a MBR operating system with a new motherboard. CSM will be gone.
     
  3. mantra

    mantra Registered Member

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    Hi Brian
    why it's not recommended ?
    right now on a ssd i have windows 10 , and on a diffenerent ssd i have an uefi operation system , i use the bios to select which ssd (os) i want to start

    what does it mean ? on my hd0 i have w7 , and i want to keep it mbr
    thanks Brian
     
  4. Brian K

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    Is the Win7 drive plugged into the first SATA port on the motherboard (Port 0 or port 1)?
     
  5. mantra

    mantra Registered Member

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    hi
    port 0
    but why could be a problem have windows 7 mbr and ubuntu on another ssd in eufi ?
    thanks
     
  6. Brian K

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    I'd disconnect that drive (plug it in to another SATA port) and plug the new SSD into port 0. Install BIBM to the SSD and setup the Boot Items. Remember to tick Swap in the Boot Item for all OS not on HD0.

    BIBM will only boot MBR OS.
     
  7. Brian K

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    You can move all your MBR OS to the SSD.
     
  8. mantra

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    Hi Brian
    but windows 10 and ubuntu are mbr but the other operation system is uefi
    thanks
     
  9. Brian K

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    Set your BIOS to MBR by...

    disable Secure Boot
    enable CSM

    Plug the new blank SSD into SATA Port 0

    Boot the BIBM flash drive and do this...

    Setup... Click OK to install BootIt ...
    Setup... Don't put a tick in Change all MBR type drives to EMBR and click Yes to "enable support for more than 4 primary partitions"
    Setup... Click Yes to let setup choose the partition for you
    Setup... Click Yes to install to a dedicated partition. No tick in Install to any drive
    Setup... Click OK to begin
    Setup... Click OK for Setup completed successfully
    click Close
    Setup... Click OK for the Remove the boot disk and click OK to restart


    BM will boot to a Boot Menu
    Click Maintenance

    This is the BIBM desktop

    Click Boot Edit and add your Windows and Linux OS to the Boot Menu. Remember to tick Swap as the OS are not on the BIBM drive.

    OK so far? You can move the MBR OS to the SSD soon.
     
  10. mantra

    mantra Registered Member

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    hi
    first Brian thanks a lot really appreciate it
    but may i ask you few questions?
    1) about setting , i need uefi because one operation system is uefi , it doesn't start in mbr
    2) how can i move all my operation system to the ssd You can move all your MBR OS to the SSD.
    the first os is windows 10 pro is mbr
    the second is ubuntu is mbr , clonezilla can't resize , so i have to restore without resize and all the partition (ubuntu is installed on a 250gb ssd)
    the third os is uefi and has 3 partition , i have to use clonezilla again (the third uefi os is installated on another ssd 250GB

    thanks
     
  11. Brian K

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    mantra,

    Maybe I misunderstood your first post. I thought you wanted to install more OS but it seems you only want to use your current OS. Correct?

    I suggest you image your Ubuntu partition with TeraByte apps. These apps can image and resize a Linux partition. With your Ubuntu partition, is GRUB installed to the Disk (First Track) or the Partition? BIBM will only boot Ubuntu where GRUB is installed to the Partition.

    Which OS is UEFI? Win10, Win8 or Linux? BIBM can't boot an OS on a GPT disk.

    Do you have a hard drive in this computer? Or only SSDs? Can we see a screenshot of Disk Management?
     
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