New Firefox Browser Version Released

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  1. JRViejo

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    I've just have a question about Firefox cookies.

    Unless I'm updating Firefox or its add-ons, I always use Sandboxie.
    After I close Sandboxed Firefox, I delete my Sandboxie with Privazer.
    Next. I clean my leftover history, cookies, etc... with CCleaner and, finally, with Wise Care.
    Anything about my browsing history, cookies, etc... should be gone, but...
    Only with Firefox I get some "strange" results while checking cookies with Wise Care.
    A snapshot of Wise Care before cleaning.

    Before Scanning with WiseCar.png

    A snapshot after I cleaned it with Wise Care.

    AfterScanning.png

    No problem.
    (That's what I've thought.)
    Let me push that Wise Care "Clean" button one more time, and one more time, and... What's going on?
    I can't remove those Firefox cookies.

    They are some webappsstore cookies.

    How can I get rid of them?

    What'sThis.png
     
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    I'm not a Windows user and therefore not familiar with CCleaner and Wise Car and how they work - but I wonder why you don't let Firefox delete that stuff when the browser closes. This should work reliably.
     
  7. Sampei Nihira

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    :thumb:
    Or do not save the history.
     
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    Lol.
    Do you really think I don’t clean my Firefox history, cookies?
    My Firefox is set up to clean everything.
    What’s more.
    I clean my Firefox before I close it.
    Next.
    My Firefox is set up to clean everything after closing.
     
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    I doubt it is related to history.
     
  10. Brummelchen

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    Wise Cleaner and CCleaner are rather stupid concerning Firefox. Either they find what has been already deleted, or they show cumulative not existing trash.
    You should believe the numbers shown in firefox itself, not a dubios software, which is able to damage firefox databases - which is the most common issue when firefox is misbehaving in cookies, history, bookmarks and more.

    and ofc for windows some entries must re-appear each scan - because windows wont let you delete vital data. stupid of science. sysiphusian struggle.
     
  11. Sampei Nihira

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    Webappsstore is the "Dom Store" (now, called Storage) you can add the rules to your CCleaner from the Winapp2.ini file:

    https://github.com/MoscaDotTo/Winapp2

    If you only add the Dom Storage rules:

    Code:
    [DOM Storage *]
    LangSecRef=3026
    Detect1=HKCU\Software\ArtistScope\ArtisBrowser
    Detect2=HKLM\Software\ComodoGroup\IceDragon
    Detect3=HKLM\Software\FlashPeak\SlimBrowser
    Detect4=HKLM\Software\Mozilla\Basilisk
    Detect5=HKLM\Software\Mozilla\Pale Moon
    Detect6=HKLM\Software\Mozilla\SeaMonkey
    Detect7=HKLM\Software\Mozilla\Waterfox
    DetectFile=%AppData%\Mozilla\Firefox
    FileKey1=%AppData%\ArtistScope\ArtisBrowser\Profiles\*|webappsstore.sqlite
    FileKey2=%AppData%\Comodo\IceDragon\Profiles\*|webappsstore.sqlite
    FileKey3=%AppData%\FlashPeak\SlimBrowser\Profiles\*|webappsstore.sqlite
    FileKey4=%AppData%\Moonchild Productions\Basilisk\Profiles\*|webappsstore.sqlite
    FileKey5=%AppData%\Moonchild Productions\Pale Moon\Profiles\*|webappsstore.sqlite
    FileKey6=%AppData%\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\*|webappsstore.sqlite
    FileKey7=%AppData%\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\*|webappsstore.sqlite
    FileKey8=%AppData%\Waterfox\Profiles\*|webappsstore.sqlite

    you will only need CCleaner to perform the complete cleanup you are looking for without using other softwares.
    You can also delete useless rules for other browsers,as you see in 2019 I created rules for an unsupported browsers (New Moon) to be cleaned with CCleaner:


    https://msfn.org/board/topic/178378-ccleaner-mailnews-new-moon/

    If instead you add all the rules for firefox-based browsers you will have in CCleaner other rules that you can always decide not to use.
     
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    You hadn't told us that. You said you would clean the leftovers with CCleaner und Wise Care.
     
  13. zmechys

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    I'm very picky about any privacy issues.

    Here are my Firefox settings.

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  14. imdb

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    z, just use the portable in pbm and there'll be nothing to clear. ;)
     
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    Yes, it's time to switch to Firefox Portable.
     
  16. Brummelchen

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    thats wrong, absolutely.
    firefox in any way will behave same, either installed or portable. therefore any current firefox build create additional data which is not handled by the portable starter, in fact the starter only starts firefox with parameter to find the profile, it does not delete anything.
    in case of firefox portable it will certainly undermine its own security, and thus OS security.
    there is nothing more you can delete, thats all. in any case any additional cleaner wont find something.

    ofc you can let delete some more, but dont be surprised when firefox is going strange ways.
    you are not sure what to delete?
    to clearify (this is an older content of the web storage page):
    referrer
    https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Web_Storage_API

    so many fud on the run concerning firefox.
     
  17. Sampei Nihira

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    Better this way:

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    If you notice from the MSFN Forum link I have already used the Dom Storage cleanup in New Moon + MailNews obviously in Windows XP without any problem.;):)
     
  19. Brummelchen

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    nevertheless your assumption is wrong. if the file is not damaged from outside it certainly behave as expected:
    to notice that firefox coding changed since xp, you cannot compare the last build for xp (v52) and a current build.

    the problem remains that so many pages wrote about hidden data stored from firefox in its profile(s) - but those articles are relative to the current builds very old. when someone wrote in 2017 this was the time of firefox 56 - means - ancient informations. and people also missed the point, that cross reading of web storage is not possible.

    i only can write you the facts, if you deny those and like to tell fud about, your problem. users like zmechys are your audience but they will fool themselves, not only lack of knowledge. you do not help them this way.
     
  20. Sampei Nihira

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    The Winapp2.ini file that is constantly updated ( last update 24 Dec 2021) has a specific rule for firefox-based browsers.
    BUT I did NOT create it and I am NOT the maintainer.
    Moreover I don't use it personally in Firefox that is installed only in the Linux pc.
    So instead of addressing me, it would be more constructive to bring concrete examples in the right place, maybe opening a problem, if you think there is a problem:

    https://github.com/MoscaDotTo/Winapp2/issues


    It's easy, I guess, right?

     
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  21. imdb

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    "in private browsing mode". ;)
     
  22. Brummelchen

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    private browsing ("mode" is not needed) is different from that what zmechys showed us
    https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/private-browsing-use-firefox-without-history
    he is deleting same files as in private browsing, but for regular browsing which is not done when not set. thats the major difference, and ofc the portable do same.

    private browsing is also same as you dont let create a history.
    about: preferences#privacy > "Chronic" > "never remember history" = same as private browsing.
    and for private browsing you need explicitly enable add-ons to work in this mode, otherwise they wont show up.
    (some people struggle about lost pinned tabs/sessions - no history > no pinned tabs, no session to restore)

    myths about private browsing
    https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/common-myths-about-private-browsing
    good to know! just read.

    you can start a portable firefox directly into private browsing.
    "portablestarter.exe -private" parameters are given to firefox.exe
    maybe the starter uses an ini entry for such parameters if not given this way.

    concerning winapp ini (any build) - nice file, but it contains a lot of stupid settings, in special for firefox. do not trust it until you are knowing what you do. if you want to delete date of firefox - do it with firefox, not against it. thats all i can say. do not delete blind some files from firefox if you do not know about internal affairs.

    about internal affairs:
    https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1308735
    -> firefox will delete cookie exceptions - see
    https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/storage#w_allow-or-block-websites-from-storing-information
    when "Data" > "Site Preferences" is enabled, see
    https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/k...refox#w_clear-all-cookies-and-keep-other-data

    "webappsstore.sqlite" is different from profile to profile - 96kb,192kb, 640kb up to 1568kb (each multiple of 32) (96kb seem the smallest). and again - it do not contain sensitive data nor can other sites read out possible data of other sites. its content is directly connected to "cookie and website data" - if you delete that content in firefox it is deleted from that file. if not, that file is definitely damaged.
     
  23. imdb

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    you don't need to modify your shortcut. just set "browser.privatebrowsing.autostart" to true.

    i use a fresh profile for every browsing session. ;)
     
  24. Brummelchen

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    thanks, i forgot it in time.
    means what in detail? clearing or from scratch?
     
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    you're welcome.

     
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