Mozilla Firefox Browser Stable Version Releases

Mozilla planning a stupid act, hiding the compact mode in about:config, annoys me like the rest of you. As paulderdash said, changes seemingly are pushed just on a whim. However, I don't understand why some users say they'll switch to another browser over something like this. If I have to choose between Firefox with Mozilla childishly hiding the compact mode, or switch to Vivaldi or Brave, I will always choose Firefox.

 

Because they are constantly taking away features and customization options, and assuming no one cares enough about their distain for their users that no one will switch browsers because of it.

 

@n8chavez,
I know, but even then, for me, Firefox is still better than Vivaldi or Brave and I would be punishing myself instead of Mozilla by moving away. I moved from Windows to Kubuntu with reason and I'm very happy with that, but moving away from Firefox would make me sad.

 

OK thanks. uBO seems to work fine for me on Chrome 89.0.4389.114 (Official Build) (64-bit), although I only use it in 'simple' mode.

 

I can sympathise with that, I've run Firefox since 2008, first on Windows, then Ubuntu and macOS. I don't want to lose it altogether, but I can see me preferring other browsers eventually.

 

Oh I completely agree! That's why I use Waterfox; because it still uses the gecko engine but with more user options and features. I prefer firefox-based browsers, but if I have to use a Chrome-based browser it would be Vivaldi.

 

Firefox 89 has been delayed for 2 weeks, arrives now after 6 weeks, not 4. other versions to come also moved.
https://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Release_Management/Calendar

maybe proton is not that ready yet. but (for me) i needs some adjustments with user style.

preview: for the current nightly (please use other thread) "compact mode" is present (no new profile) but not supported. it shows similar small as before.

just read:
https://www.ghacks.net/2021/04/07/m...-for-new-users-but-keep-it-for-existing-ones/
its

 

https://www.ghacks.net/2021/04/07/m...-for-new-users-but-keep-it-for-existing-ones/

"Mozilla decides to hide Compact Mode in Firefox for new users but keep it for existing ones"

I'd love to know the rationale for this. Care to comment Mozilla? I thought not. ~ Off Topic Remarks Removed ~

 

come on, shut up please. you have taken your choice and its no longer your turn to ask about mozilla's decision.

for the facts: firefox telemetry indicates that a minority is using compact mode.
ofc pity for those but possible to fix. the current proton elements here look like before w/o proton.

 

I've a right to my opinion. This is just another case of Mozilla wilfully ignoring its user base. It's basically a pattern of self-indulgent behaviour. IMO they can't define themselves as 'the people's browser' if they don't respect the wants and needs of the 'people' in the first place. If everyone just 'shut up' and rolled over Mozilla would be happier. I can see where this is heading.

'for the facts: firefox telemetry indicates that a minority is using compact mode'

You have these facts documented? I'd like to know how much of a minority. Don't minorities views or needs count?

 

afraid not, you need to ask this guy
https://www.soeren-hentzschel.at/
anyhow he is trustworthy, was mozillas representative and still developer with insider knowledge.
for the rest, we were asked to keep such discussions off here

anybody has the choice to use any browser he/she/div wants to, its just a decision. if you are not satisfied with a product, just change it. the problem you insert here that you changed for nothing, nothing is ready yet, but again i tell you that anything right now is still available and you gave firefox no chance, so why do we have a pointless discussion?

~ Removed Off Topic Remarks! ~

 

Yeah, I figured you didn't have any actual documentation. I haven't 'rage-quit' Firefox. In fact, I don't even use compact mode in macOS:



I am just disappointed with Mozilla's utter contempt for their user base. Which will inevitably lead to me preferring other browsers. I'll definitely have fun, but probably not with Firefox in the future.

 

I am a nice guy - let you guess which one is the new proton, left or right?

https://s8.directupload.net/images/210409/cdc9tkjw.png

And i already wrote that he has inside info, not me, you need to ask him.
anyhow i asked him about some input.
one of the major disadvantages in this forum - no specialists for browsers, neither this nor other.

 

Yeah, difficult to tell. My main concern is the increased GUI height when I have to lose compact mode in Ubuntu. The Gnome desktop environment on Focal Fossa already has an increased depth.



You can see in normal density, even without the bookmarks toolbar, this wastes an awful amount of space compared to other browsers. I know this isn't a huge problem compared to global warming or something but I've only just got used to the ridiculous runbar expansion. Which is one of the most pointless additions I can think of on a browser. Why lose a function that does something useful? I'm just at a loss to explain these decisions.

 

@Daveski17,
If this is the same in Ubuntu as it is Kubuntu, you can ditch Firefox' useless Title Bar, to release some welcome vertical space.
With Firefox' Title Bar disabled, Minimize, Maximize and Close icons are placed in the tabs bar.
N.B. In Kubuntu, disabling Firefox' Title Bar results in very dark tabs, may be an overlooked bug. I correct that by setting Firefox' Light theme.

 

OK thanks for the info.

 

i believe that's because most, if not all, of those who use compact mode also disable telemetry via a:c.

 

Or via about:preferences#privacy

 

or that too, yeah.

 

i do both, but i do not complain. my firefox also dont include ping tool and other. (windows)

i had another look to "normal", any element shows like compact mode with some more padding/margin. It is not everybody job to insert a custom userstyle. i had more headaches with chromium.

preferences > privacy is only the tip of an iceberg, a lot more under the hood (about:config). some nifty - for the nightly and dev its not possible to deactivate the data reporting, is mandatory but a fair price for testing the next build(s).

 

Thanks again Stupendous Man. I think I could live with this.

 

Great. And you're most welcome, @Daveski17.
I don't see why the Title Bar is default, taking up space, as most relevant info is in the tab(s). It is good that the Title Bar can easily be disabled.

 

Yeah, I sometimes wonder who designs these default GUI's. The title bar is a literal waste of space.