New FD vs. System Restore

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  1. Acadia

    Acadia Registered Member

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    Hmmmm, like MrFargoReed, I may be just looking for an excuse to still purchase FD whenever I jump to Win7, I've relied on FD for so long.

    I know that Microsoft has made System Restore more robust in Win7 plus you can now use it in the dreaded unbootable scenario. With System Restore having multiple restore points and being free, and the new FD only having one restore point and costing money, someone give me an excuse to purchase it, thank you.

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    I'm sorry to say Acadia, but there is none unless you want to continue supporting FD hoping that multiple snapshots and archives will be eventually included. But at the moment, that doesn't appear likely :(
    I used to think of FD as a more flexible imaging solution but now, it's not even close to being on par with imaging and there are far too many other choices out there (free or low cost) to justify purchasing Rescue.
     
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    Hmmmm, well I just remembered one: FD restores the entire system whereas SR restores critical files and the registry.

    Any others?

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    This is exactly my point, Acadia. I'm sitting here wanting to buy it and to keep supporting Leapfrog, etc, but right now I really can't see a reason to do so as I'm not sure any more what it offers that other software doesn't. The snapshots (without going over old ground, just stating a point here) were just so useful and without them, I don't see a use for it as it stands. The whole selling point if the old FD-ISR was the ability to boot into different environments to do different things. We all had snapshots for gaming, testing, banking - whatever - but now I don't see anything that makes FD-R jump out at me :doubt: .
     
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    Ok, another question, for me anyway. If Microsoft has improved SR and FD now only has one restore point, why not keep SR enabled, have the best of both worlds?

    I know that more hard drive space would get used up but, good grief, I would be removing 9 bootable Snapshots if I jump to Win7 and would therefore be gaining tons of drive space back; space would NOT be a problem and I would be gaining more restore points.

    I also do not care about slowing down my system, if using a computer the past eleven years has taught me anything, its patience, especially concerning backups.

    Anyone see any REAL issues or problems with this strategy of using both?

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    I'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade here as i am extremely disappointed myself. I am on a new laptop and have been patiently waiting and hoping for an opportunity to purchase a new and improved Rescue with the previous features. But that doesn't look like it's gonna happen so i have finally excepted that and am going to move on to something else or just stick with my free imaging solution which works great but just isn't as flexible as the old FD. And i suggest you accept it too and move on.
     
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    Wouldn't a strategy of giving up "classic" and employing Rescue and System Restore be just that, moving on?

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    You already have system restore. Why use another? And one that won't cover you if your C drive/partition becomes hosed :eek: Why spend the money on FD with other free imaging solutions out there?? I just don't see the reason to.
     
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    Ahhhhhh, that's an easy one. If System Restore should ever let me down there would always be good old reliable FirstDefense to save me. :cool:

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    Oh Acadia - still reliving those FD glory years :p
     
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    Well, really disappointed of the new reduced version, thought that a rebirth of the "classic" was to be launched...been waiting for it for my win7 laptop. For now I stay with DS v1.40 imaging which I find a suitable choice.
     
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    My point exactly in my post here --->

    https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1638915&postcount=68

    I've made several special purpose images,
    w/ DS compression each one < 3 GB,
    plus,
    they're NOT stored on the System partition -
    thereby keeping the System partition lean, mean, clean, defragged.

    but as I've posted elsewhere,
    I sure am grateful to the 30 - 40 pages of FD-ISR posts,

    of which I read every single one to study & learn from !!!

    and ultimately, as so many have (& will no doubt continue to) ARGUED,

    your limitations/freedoms are only your imagination & inventiveness
    in how you'll use the tool.

    And invoking System Restore in this comparison ?
    imho, it's not even a logical "comparison"
    because it truly does NOT accomplish/provide the same functionalities.

    While not a comparison, it could be an inclusion,
    & perhaps a simpler alternative to erunt or similar.


    The new DS can be set to reboot any image you desire,
    from any partition on the hdd or different hdds,
    & if you install BartPE or Sully's WinPE boot.ini option
    (do-able on Win.7 but in a different manner),
    then you can set that boot-time option for however many seconds you want,
    just in case you decide at boot-time that you want to do something else.

    Doesn't this sound similar to the old FD-ISR functionality?

    Plus, of course a bootable CD in the event of hdd mechanical failure.

    Let me be clear -
    I have a legit v3.x of FD-ISR & have employed/enjoyed it immensely,
    & if this new one gets 'er dun for YOU, then that's fantastic.

    I'm merely posting another point of view to share in this post
    where the new offering is being intensely considered by sincere seekers
    as an answer to protect their valuable time & resources.

    Happy Trails ~
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