Nero 7 - Discussion

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Nero 7 good or not?

  1. Excellent

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  2. Good

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  3. Bad

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  4. Worst

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  1. adrianyujs

    adrianyujs Registered Member

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    Hi! Anyone got problem using Nero 7 to burn CD and DVD? There is some people complain that Nero 7 is rubbish, Here is the link.
    Please fell free to post what you think about Nero 7, what error you have got, and anything about Nero 7.

    Thanks,
    adrianyujs.
     
  2. zapjb

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    Ever since I discovered DropToCD I have no need for bloated resource hog nero. Others I know feel the same way about nero but choose Prassi's ONES instead.
     
  3. adrianyujs

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    Here is discussing about Nero 7, not other burning software related stuff.
     
  4. sowhat

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    I had installed a OEM version 7 from my cd-drive 's retail cd,
    and got some errors...so why uninstalled it,
    downloaded Ahead 's cleaning tool and ran it,
    also manually deleted whatever was left over the registry.
    Just went back to Nero 6.3-always played nice in my machine.
    I believe there's no need of having all these "features" in a cd-burning app,
    sometimes i even get a feeling that my old 5.8 version ran more smoothly...
    But I personally cannot clarify such a hard accusation,that it is rubbish,
    'cause i didn't spend any of my time to see if it was something fixable...
    My point-of-view,is pretty much described by these very-well known phrases:
    "If it ain't broken,then don't fix it" and "KISS".
    Tweak it,as much as your heart tells you to do,but if it's really broken,
    don't try to "fix" it,just replace it-this 'causes much less of frustration.
     
  5. adrianyujs

    adrianyujs Registered Member

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    So, it is a bug? Or it is compatibility problem? I have no problem using Nero 7 with my Liteon Combo Drive.
    Or it is about empty CD problem? Maybe in Nero 7, they block burning pirated CD and other, i'm not sure also.
    Thanks sowhat for posting his problem, maybe his problem can help me find more information about Nero 7 bugs, because i'm always emailing Nero official, and hope they can fix all these problem.
     
  6. GotNero

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    Yeah, I got Nero 7 and it did have a few problems, so I downloaded their MASSIVE 100GB bug fix which is what you have to do everytime you want the latest fixes. Unfrigginreal why can't they just have a small download for the updates? Why make us do some massive download just for a few little updates? Doesn't make sense to me. o_O I should have waited and looked for something better.
     
  7. adrianyujs

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    I think you are wrong, their small update is 100MB not GB, and their trial version is 400MB depend on the language you selected.
     
  8. zapjb

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    Yeah really worth it.:rolleyes:
     
  9. WSFuser

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    ive tried nero 7 and overall i havent had any failures when burning data tho i still stick to the latest nero 6 just to be safe.
     
  10. adrianyujs

    adrianyujs Registered Member

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    Ok ok, doesn't matter got error or not, please include your system which are running while burn a CD or DVD.
    For me, I got burning failed when enable ZoneAlarm Antivirus and Spyware, after i disable these two, burning is successfull. But my friend, he already try Nero 7 from first release to latest version, no problem at all, and he say he never install any AntiVirus on his computer, does this means AV problem to cause Nero 7 burning failed?
    And one thing I must tell you all, when burning a CD or DVD, it is better don't run or load any application while burning is in progress, its sometime can cause burning failed, especially for those who have low capacity of Random Access Memory(RAM).
     
  11. zapjb

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    The last poster brought up an interesting point. Next time nero is burning, pull up taskmanager & see the system resources it's hogging. Then if you want to see the difference install Prassi's ONES or Sateira's DropToCD & compare by burning the same project. Give each program a even playing field. A fresh reboot & same background processes. Most likely as I have found nero will be using up to 10x more resources. Most of that RAM.:eek:
     
  12. se7engreen

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    I liked Nero back in the day and it's still pretty good. I stopped using it because it has more stuff than I use and the extras end up being wasted space. I didn't really need anything but the basic buring engine.

    I recently switched to Ashampoo's Burning Studio since it does everything that I used to do with Nero. It doesen't add anything to autorun when your computer starts and it's only about a 6Mb download. Of course like anything from Ashampoo, it's simple to use. The flip side of that is that you don't get much for advanced control, but I'd recommend it for the casual user.
     
  13. adrianyujs

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    se7engreen: Nero 7 contain these program:-
    1) Nero Home
    2) Nero Scout
    3) Nero StartSmart 3
    4) Nero Burning ROM 7
    5) Nero Express 7
    6) Nero WaveEditor 3
    7) Nero SoundTrax 2
    8 ) Nero Vision 4
    9) Nero Recode 2
    10) Nero ShowTime 2
    11) Nero MediaHome
    12) Nero PhotoSnap
    13) Nero CoverDesigner 2
    14) Nero ToolKit
    15) Nero BackItUp 2
    16) InCD 5
    17) Nero SoundBox
    18 ) Nero ImageDrive
    You still can select custom installation, then you don't need to waste your space. You can just install Nero Burning Rom 7, because Nero Burning Rom is provide burning CD or DVD.

    zapjb: As you say Nero use ten times more resource? it is because, example, sometimes when you burn a video file(MPG, AVI and other), Nero will check for compatibility VCD or DVD compliant, if the file that is not compliant with VCD or DVD, Nero will convert the video file to VCD compliant, then store in the temporary drive, then burn the converted file to CD or DVD. For other burning software, some of them not provide checking CD or DVD compliant, But most of them didn't provide this function.
     
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  14. WSFuser

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    also nero can use some system memory as a buffer, if u wish u can into ur option and lower the amount.
     
  15. adrianyujs

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    Although buffer can be modified, it is recommend not to touch anything with that.
     
  16. Infinity

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    I rated this product being excellent. never ever had any issues with cd-rw and dvd-rw burning.

    I do love their mediaplayer a lot, it's the only one I use.
     
  17. adrianyujs

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    Nero Burning ROM and Nero Express will automatically create a log file at the end of every write attempt. (The log file will be created even if the burning process has failed).

    The default folder where this log file is saved depends on whether you were using Nero Burning ROM or NeroExpress.
    For -> Nero Burning ROM: C:\Programs\Ahead\Nero
    For -> NeroExpress: C:\Programs\Ahead\NeroExpress

    The name of this log file is
    NeroHistory.log

    The ten last burning processes are saved in this log file.
    If possible, please specify the date and the time of the burning process in question so I and Nero can examine it specifically.

    Please attach the log here, thanks...
     
  18. Sonap

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    I use Nero 7 premium and i like it.
     
  19. iceni60

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    i don't know the first thing about burning software but i've used a couple of the 7 versions with no problems, burning .iso's, music and videos.

    i've got a LG.
     
  20. adrianyujs

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    SO, latest version is 7.0.5.4. Anyone still got problem burning CD or DVD?
     
  21. AbdMajeed

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    I don't know what to say...first wasted 3 DVD-R... then e-mailed NERO.com for help and support where I attached the Log.txt... but no response.. WHAT THE HELL!!!... I bot this software just 3 days ago and it does not work... here is the Log file.. kindly plzzzzz plzz plzzz help me anyone...

    Mazed Chowdhury
    Education
    1C8#-0##6-19#5-MA#X-4##M-3C#0-8043

    Windows XP 5.1
    IA32
    WinAspi: File 'Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=4.70 (000:cool:, size=45056 bytes, created 17/07/2002 16:23:20
    ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Nero\Nero 7\Core\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 02/11/2004 12:54:32

    NT-SPTI used
    Nero Version: 7.0.5.4
    Internal Version: 7, 0, 5, 4

    Recorder: <TDK DVDRW0404N> Version: 1.06 - HA 1 TA 0 - 7.0.5.4
    Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1
    Drive buffer : 2048kB
    Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
    CD-ROM: <TDK DVDRW0404N >Version: 1.06 - HA 1 TA 0 - 7.0.5.4
    Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1

    === Scsi-Device-Map ===
    DiskPeripheral : ST340810A atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
    CdRomPeripheral : TDK DVDRW0404N atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
    CdRomPeripheral : VOBID InstantDrive CD 14 VOBID Port 2 ID 0 DMA: Off

    === CDRom-Device-Map ===
    VOBID InstantDrive CD E: CDRom1
    TDK DVDRW0404N F: CDRom0
    =======================

    AutoRun : 1
    Excluded drive IDs:
    WriteBufferSize: 74448896 (0) Byte
    BUFE : 0
    Physical memory : 511MB (523760kB)
    Free physical memory: 154MB (158688kB)
    Memory in use : 69 %
    Uncached PFiles: 0x0
    Use Inquiry : 1
    Global Bus Type: default (0)
    Check supported media : Disabled (0)

    2.5.2006
    UDF/ISO compilation
    00:55:15 #1 Phase 112 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1730
    DVD-Video files reallocation started

    00:55:15 #2 Phase 114 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1730
    DVD-Video files reallocation completed (no file modified)

    00:55:16 #3 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6414
    UDF document burn settings
    ------------------------------------------
    Determine maximum speed : FALSE
    Simulate : FALSE
    Write : TRUE
    Finalize CD : TRUE
    Multisession : FALSE
    Burning mode : DAO
    Mode : 1
    UDF Mode : UDF/ISO bridge
    UDF Options : automatic
    UDF Revision : 1.02
    UDF Partition Type : physical
    ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
    Character set : ISO 9660
    Joliet : FALSE
    Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : TRUE
    Allow more than 255 characters in path : TRUE
    Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE

    00:55:16 #4 Phase 111 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1730
    DVD-Video files sorted

    00:55:16 #5 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 531
    ReadBuffer-Pipe got 262144KB of Memory

    00:55:16 #6 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 124
    Reader running

    00:55:16 #7 ISO9660GEN -11 File Geniso.cpp, Line 3312
    First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

    00:55:16 #8 ISO9660GEN -11 File Geniso.cpp, Line 3312
    First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

    00:55:16 #9 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3341
    Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media

    00:55:49 #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 288
    Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB)
    Last address to be written: 2250143 (500:01.68, 4394MB)

    00:55:49 #11 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 300
    Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

    00:55:49 #12 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2699
    Recorder: TDK DVDRW0404N, Media type: DVD-R
    Disc Manufacturer: UME01 -
    Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193

    00:55:49 #13 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 472
    >>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
    =========================================
    Insert empty disc to write to.
    (Medium in drive: Unknown. Medium required by compilation: DVD R/RW.)

    00:55:49 #14 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 847
    Setup items (after recorder preparation)
    0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
    2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
    original disc pos #0 + 2250144 (2250144) = #2250144/500:1.69
    relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
    -> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2250144 blocks [F: TDK DVDRW0404N]
    --------------------------------------------------------------

    00:55:49 #15 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1059
    Prepare recorder [F: TDK DVDRW0404N] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
    DAO infos:
    ==========
    MCN: ""
    TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
    Tracks 1 to 1:
    1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4608294912, ISRC ""
    DAO layout:
    ===========
    __Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________
    0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
    0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
    0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
    2250144 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00

    00:55:50 #16 Text 0 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 39
    SPTILockVolume - completed successfully for FCTL_LOCK_VOLUME

    00:55:50 #17 Text 0 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 84
    SPTIDismountVolume - completed successfully for FSCTL_DISMOUNT_VOLUME

    00:55:50 #18 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1730
    Caching of files started

    00:55:50 #19 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4175
    Cache writing successful.

    00:55:50 #20 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1730
    Caching of files completed

    00:55:50 #21 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1730
    Burn process started at 2.4x (3,324 KB/s)

    00:55:50 #22 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2685
    Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

    00:55:50 #23 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2699
    Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode

    00:55:50 #24 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2855
    Start write address at LBA 0
    DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

    00:55:50 #25 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8663
    ---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
    Media Type: 0, Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
    Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 2.0x (5), Extended Part Version: 0.0 (0)
    Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
    Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
    Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
    Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
    End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 26127F h
    End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB)
    Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
    Start sector number of the current Border-Out: 2FE10 h
    Start sector number of the next Border-In: 2FFA0 h
    Media Specific [16..63]:
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
    00 02 FE 10 00 02 FF A0 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

    00:55:50 #26 SPTI -1046 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 290
    F: CdRom0: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1046)
    Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
    Sense Code: 0x30
    Sense Qual: 0x05
    CDB Data: 0x53 00 00 00 00 00 22 55 A0 00 00 00
    Sense Area: 0x70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 30 05

    00:55:50 #27 CDR -1046 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1799
    Illegal disc
    F: TDK DVDRW0404N

    00:55:50 #28 TRANSFER -27 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1799
    Could not perform start of Disc-at-once

    00:55:50 #29 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1730
    Burn process failed at 2.4x (3,324 KB/s)


    Existing drivers:
    File 'Drivers\ASPI32.SYS': Ver=4.70 (000:cool: built by: WinDDK, size=84832 bytes, created 17/07/2002 16:20:32
    File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.03.32a, size=20640 bytes, created 20/01/2006 23:46:33 (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)

    Registry Keys:
    HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)
     
  22. adrianyujs

    adrianyujs Registered Member

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    Dear friend (AbdMajeed), give them more time... they are busy release new version of nero and maybe really busy.
    How about you use Nero 6 to test it.
     
  23. ErikAlbert

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    Why didn't you try the trial version of Nero 7 first, before buying it ?
     
  24. adrianyujs

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    I think his(AbdMajeed) burner got problem.
     
  25. StevieO

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    I've heard of issues with 7 but as i have no problems with 5.5 feel no need or desire to "upgrade".

    When i burn i've found it always works much more smoothly shutting everything down with msconfig etc, physically disconnecting from the internet first of course. This way i rarely if ever have any bad burns or faults.

    I know nero has an AV capability built in which can scan for viruses before burning, so i wonder if this could be the cause of some of those errors with other AV's etc ?


    StevieO
     
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