Need a couple sites with anti-malware comparisons..

Discussion in 'other anti-malware software' started by taosk8r, Jun 19, 2009.

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  1. taosk8r

    taosk8r Registered Member

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    I have an easy time finding this for anti-virus, and I dug up a couple sites that compare those against malware, but where my google-fu is failing me is finding somewhere where they do comprehensive comparisons of SOLELY anti-malware products (so that I can use them in tandem with my current AV pick).

    I had been trusting Spyware Doctor, but it seems to be falling behind, then I saw some recommendations for Malwarebytes, but then I saw some comparisons showing it had an almost abysmal detection rate (way lower than SWD). A-Squared seems to show up pretty high in some tests, but one of those is by its maker, and I can't seem to find any independent confirmation/denial of the results there.

    I would really like to find something similar to the AV-comparatives site, where both detection AND REMOVAL rates are shown, and where false positive information is also available.

    Thanks much!
     
  2. Vikorr

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    I've looked for something like that myself. I don't think it exists, because reliable testing of those products is labor intensive. It seems PCMag is the only recent one to do thorough testing (and even then the test sample was around 200 malware items, I think). There's a Link in the Prevx forums on this website. When you get to the site, it links to other tests that the sight has done.
     
  3. Someone

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    There's this one at Gizmo's Freeware.
     
  4. prairie dog

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    I have used Gizmo's site for quite a while and love it:D
     
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    Dont rely on PCMag and Techsupportalert. These guys really only do price v feature comparisons which is not useful in terms of evaluating anti malware software.
     
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    No I havent read it and yes it is one of Neil's better ones. Still wouldnt trust it though. Have a read of some of his other reviews and you will see what I mean. Theres a good example in this one, he writes a paragraph on the size of the install file...which is not very relevant.
     
  8. Vikorr

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    You're trying to guage the validity of one article on the strength of other articles that he's written? That's...odd.

    As for writing about the size of the install file, so what? There's a wealth of other valid information in that lengthy article - it makes it seem that you want to dismiss that for a, what, pet peeve?

    -though as a matter of interest (while the size of the install file for Prevx may say nothing about it's ability), the size of the install file for Prevx is actually very noteworthy.
     
  9. Saraceno

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    I can see huangker's point of view. But all depends on your level of experience. Install size does freak a few out. Especially those on a slower connection or wireless. For example, if the download gets to 49mb and stalls, the user might have another 30 minute wait.

    If you write for a living you'll realise the best reviewers are the ones that write their opinion, no matter how kind or unkind it may be, how popular or unpopular. In more recent reviews, to me Neil is producing much fairer reviews. Sure though, there are some I disagree with (a-squared and Avira - I place in the top group), but like any review, I respect it is one user's opinion and his focus is on everyday users with the most basic of knowledge.
     
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    Kinda hard to go for price when all Techsupport lists is freeware. :D
     
  12. ben7777777

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    Nah gizmo's has everything, and its all free, i spent 3 days on it making pc immaculate
     
  13. Someone

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    Exactly, it's all free software. How can price be a factor?
     
  14. dw426

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    Imho, if you want "real world" reviews and tests, you gotta go to the users, and you're right smack in the middle of of them by being here at Wilders. PCMag, I'm sorry, but they, imho, don't do a very good job at putting the products they test through the ringer enough, and, I always worry about their supposed "malware samples". Does anyone outside of Neil know what he uses to test this stuff?

    It seems to be like it's always "I tested it with my usual samples"...that's not good enough anymore. As I said, you want real world ideas about what products are good and what aren't? Start here first, THEN maybe head over to the magazine websites and other computer related websites, and compare reviews. That being said, be careful here too. Learn to distinguish between real opinions and fanboy/hater posts, and this is a GREAT place to learn about the tools and methods to be secure.
     
  15. prairie dog

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    This makes no sense when talking about techsupportalert since all they review is freeware:rolleyes:
     
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    Try malwareresearchgroup.com - live and on demand tests.

    SSUpdater are also very good - ignore the rubbish some idiots will tell you about them - the tests are all valid.
     
  18. Dr who

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    This is classic SSUPDATER testing mentality,integrity and logic summed up.

    MZ requested from littlebytes after hearing that a2 struggled to remove malware that it detected from an infected machine to check a2 ability to remove detected malware or whether it was true.

    Littlebytes then scans his folder of inactive malware samples and confirms that a2 does indeed remove all that it detects from that folder.

    Max Zorin is then very satisfied and everyone congratulate Littlebytes for his marvelous testing and glories that the reports from the real world are all false:shifty:

    One big problem shills and fanboys of SSUPDATER

    That was not what a2 was accused of under performing it was removing malware that was active on a pc so in fact that rather makes MZ look like an idiot for accepting they were valid tests of the software ability to remove from an infected machine and Littlebytes incapable or unwilling of testing on an infected machine in the first place.

    Gizmo however tests antimalwares versus live malware infections now that is what you call real world testing with real world results:thumb: :thumb:

    Which is it SSUPDATER/Littlebytes and Redapuss are you incapable of dealing with live malware testing or just dont want to get egg on your faces when you suddenly realize there is more than 1 dimension to malware and antimalware software and it a whole lot more complicated then inactives files sat in a holding folder....

    HTH
     
  19. Saraceno

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    I think active infection removal is no doubt important, it saves the day when something has busted through. But depending on your setup, detection only (through right-click scan) can play a significant part. For example, using virtualisation, such as Shadow Defender/Returnil and determining which file to keep and install, or using sandboxie or DefenseWall, determining if you can run the file outside of the sandbox. :)
     
  20. Franklin

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    So how many of the Wilder's members actually get their hands dirty in getting out into the real world and finding/uploading samples to antimalware vendors? :rolleyes:

    Instead of hanging around here big noting yourselves on how secure your setups are get out there and help.

    Or is it a case of "I'm alright Jack and stuff everyone else".
     
  21. Boost

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    I've thought this myself as there's a few members who,claim they have a 100% safe and secure security setup, but yet all they seem to do is promote their setups and dont venture out into the darker side of the internet to actually test thier "100% solid setups" they have.
     
  22. Saraceno

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    Agree Franklin and Boost.

    That's where you see the pros and cons of the programs you use. ;)

    With samples, I do make an effort to try and send files to Dr.Web, you know helping a fellow russian brother out, and thanking for the freebies (CureIt, link checker). :)
     
  23. dw426

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    Well, here's how I see things: If I run across a post claiming 100% ANYTHING, I ignore it like it doesn't even exist because the people who post said claims don't actively TRY to test it, as was said, or, they've no clue what they are talking about. It's sad that it needs to be repeated, but it does: NOTHING is 100%! Your favorite VPN? Not 100%. Your favorite HIPS? Not 100%. (Insert any other security product here)? Not 100%.

    I P2P, I visit "one stop shop" crackz and warez websites...I even view *gasp* porn! Does my Sandboxie and Avast block every little nasty that could ever want to call my computer home? Nope. But do they get the chance to INFECT me, which is the important part? Nope!
     
  24. Saraceno

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    Best post of the week dw. :thumb: lol
     
  25. Boost

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    Hey,I agree with you 100%

    And I'm sure I dont need to name the peeps on here who claim they have a 100% bulletproof setup now either :D
     
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