My bro is getting his first PC.

Discussion in 'other anti-malware software' started by cheater87, Sep 27, 2006.

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  1. cheater87

    cheater87 Registered Member

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    He said he doest want me to put anything on it to protect it. I respect that. He said hes going to have Adaware and Spybot and he doest know what third program to put on it. Im thinking of a real time program that is free. But if he doesn't want that its ok with me. I looked at what it will come with and it doesn't even come with an anti virus program and i bet if i asked him if he wanted one of the free ones he would say no. So what should i do. I don't want him to start complaining when his computer gets infected.
     
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    it's his choice. if he doesn't want to install protection that is his right. It is a mistake but still his right.
     
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    So I guess you can just stand back and watch and if it does get infected you can tell him (I told you so) :doubt:
     
  5. cheater87

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    should i have him pay me to clean it?
     
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    depends on what kind of brother you are:doubt:
     
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    Absolutely. People here in the biz can tell you the average hourly rate in your country. Just remember to charge a set fee just to look at it and then another fee on an hourly rate to actually fix it. Nothing smartens up a person faster than a hit in the wallet. :D
     
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    Tough love is needed here. :)
     
  9. cheater87

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    well i already has to clean Spyax off of the computer when he got it god that was tough
     
  10. Peter2150

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    Cheater. Just tell(nicely) he is very free to do what he wants with his computer. He is also free to deal with the consequences himself. He has to learn personal responsibility. Good luck.
     
  11. ErikAlbert

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    Is that the same brother who visited all these porn sites or was it another member ? :D
     
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    I would actually say that's not an entirely bad idea. Either accept the free help that makes things easier on everyone, or if he's going to be demanding a significant amount of your time because of the fact that he doesn't want to take any preventative measures then I don't think it's [at all] unfair to charge some. I wouldn't go so far as to say to charge as much as a professional tech would, but $10-$20/hr (enough to be a not-insignificant amount of money to him without being a jerk about it) would serve to get the point across and make it worthwhile on your part. The fact is that he's not going to want to take preventative measures until the consequences of not doing so become enough of a burden, and that's something he'll likely need to figure out for himself, one way or another. I've also had it pointed out, and have also experienced for myself, that people are much more likely to take your time/work for granted if they get it for free. If you charge even a small amount, then they have at least some respect for the fact that you are giving up some of your free time to do work for them, and you also gain a higher level of trust (in your ability) on their part.

    I'm all for helping out friends and family whenever possible, but if he's going to ask you to clean up his system every time it gets infected, and refuses to take any measures to keep it from getting infected in the first place, then there needs to be some balancing factor so that you're not always doing free work for him. Otherwise just state that you won't help him, have him take it to a shop to be cleaned. If he has to pay a shop's fee to clean the system at least once, then at least he'll have an appreciation for how much you're saving him when you do help him. These days the only people I help with their computer (for free or not) are friends and family that have a high appreciation for the fact that I have other things I could be doing, and are willing to take any advice given. This is either because they have to give me something in return (whether money or whatever they do for a living) or because they've paid expensive shops all too many times and wouldn't be asking me if they could afford to go to a shop. The rest I just tell them that I don't have the time (which I really don't).

    This might sound a bit harsh in the context of your family, but you don't have to say 'yes' every time he asks you to clean his computer. If charging seems too harsh, then just say 'no' and let him find the help elsewhere.
     
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    yup its the guy who visited a lot of porn sites
     
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    basicly my parents don't want any anti spyware programs except adaware and spybot on the new family computer we are getting. They don't want any real time protection and they think spywareblaster will slow it down. I keep telling them look with all the programs i had on our old one did it have any spyware. But they keep saying that the computer guy that comes to our house says that spybot and adaware is good enough. I'll at least download firefox for them. But my mom won't use it she worships AOL.
     
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    He visited lots of porn sites?
    This doesn't look good for security!
    I hope this isn't a dialup connection.
     
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    you could try convincing them to buy prevx1 then you would have a great easy to use hips and shouldn't slow it down to much.
    and any person should know that you need a AV.

    unless we only talking about antispyware.
     
  17. ErikAlbert

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    According member "Mrkvonic" porn sites are malware-free.
    If you really WANT something, you deny any warnings. :D
     
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    malware free rofl
     
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    its a high speed connection.
     
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    my bro basicly doesn't give a crap about anti spyware and then he complains when stuff happens
     
  21. ErikAlbert

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    Cheater,
    Bill Gates became a billionaire after giving everybody an unprotected computer world-wide.
    Your brother is just the beginning to make YOU a billionaire.
     
  22. cheater87

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    YAY woohoo
     
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    I have to talk to my parents. I need a brother urgently :D
     
  24. austin1257

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    Your, Bro, should save his money if that is his approach. :)
     
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    Don't they sell those on eBay now?
     
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