Mozilla warns of potential dark patterns in new browser choice screens coming to Europe

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  1. ronjor

    ronjor Global Moderator

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    By Rob Thubron 25 Sep 2023
     
  2. kaljukass

    kaljukass Registered Member

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    No matter what Mozilla wants, there's no way use their browser exactly as long as it does not made compatible with general web requirements.
    Dear Mozilla, make your browser usable and only then start setting conditions.
     
  3. summerheat

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    What are you talking about? Firefox has been "usable" for me for many years. I've never seen a reason to switch to another browser.
     
  4. kaljukass

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    Dear friend, I really didn't know anything about you, but it's good that you still told me. But that doesn't make Firefox any better.
    only now I know that many people in the world do not see anything. It is so sad!!!
    My heartfelt condolences to you.
     
  5. Brummelchen

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    geez. mozilla is only following the current web standards, google is the one heading away with its own implementations, most in special for google and youtube pages. google has also different interpretations of CSS - the problem is that the market share of chrome a lot higher than firefox, so devs have chrome in focus and not firefox. if they would respect the current web standards then chrome would have some problems and not firefox. chrome is the only stupid browser using "webkit-" css while the web standard already has it without "webkit-" - chrome wont use the web standard value, "webkit-" is mandatory although its complete nonsense. one example of a lot. but this not topic of this thread.

    its the upcoming law that a real browser choice has to be, microsoft has been pawned to offer this and make it possible for the next windows 11 half year update afair. so for europe the hardcoded edge:\\ links are gone, but only for europe. the message says that there can be tricks of not sufficient informations when chosing.
     
  6. summerheat

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    Wow, what an arrogant and impolite reply. Another entry in my ignore list.
     
  7. kaljukass

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    Hey, I'm really grateful for that compliment.
    PS. I believe that the quote you wrote yourself is still also true.
    “Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.” ― Friedrich von Schiller, The Maid of Orleans

    NB! And don't say now again that I told you that - this is a quote from your own profile page, which you wrote there yourself.
     
  8. roger_m

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    His posts never make much sense.
     
  9. Daveski17

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    I'm pretty happy with Fx as my default. :thumb:
     
  10. Rules

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    @kaljukass
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    I don't know for other country, region , language, but here in France, i stopped using firefox cause, i 've several issue on lot's of regular website. (can't handle city, bad display, can't login. In the short past firefox working like a charm, but from few month ago, problems occurs (on Windows, Linux, Android).
     
  11. nicolaasjan

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    Can you give an example of a bad displaying page?
     
  12. Rules

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    Sure :
    https://www.leboncoin.fr/
    didn't managed to write city (i can type but errors occurs) when i look for something.

    https://www.fdj.fr/
    can't play Illiko games when logged in to my account (user agent switcher and manager set to Chrome did the trick)

    I don't use FF at the moment so these example com from memories.
     
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  13. summerheat

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    I just tried that site and got no error (you have to allow javascript). Perhaps something is blocked for you by a filter in your adblocker?
     
  14. Rules

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    Ah, ok, but javascript was On when i tried, maybe the error is fixed now, i will try FF with a other computer when back home
    Thank you for testing.
     
  15. nicolaasjan

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    If it still doesn't work, try with a new clean profile. Make one in:
    Code:
    about:profiles
    It first didn't work here, but did in a new profile.
    I had to accept cookies first.
     
  16. Brummelchen

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    report incompatible sites to https://webcompat.com/
    in most issues the site is not comaptible, see #5
     
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