Mozilla Partners with Real Networks

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  1. ronjor

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  2. Capp

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    Ah crap!!

    I dislike real-player and all things related to real. They are one of the biggest pain in the butt software to keep from starting up and running all the time.

    I hope it's not a required install.
     
  3. Devinco

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    Doesn't bother me one bit.

    Real will be including Firefox with RealPlayer NOT Mozilla including RealPlayer with Firefox.

    Just get Firefox from Mozilla.
     
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    I don't like it one bit either. :mad: While Devinco correctly pointed out FF will be bundled with Real, Rhapsody, and RealArcade ... not the other way round. Teaming up with them isn't a wise idea --- talk about selling your soul to gain marketshare. :oops: :doubt: :mad:
     
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    As long as they dont bundle real player into firefox there is no problem imo. Everything in firefox should be optional.
     
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    Jeez isn't Mozilla making enough money with Google? Where are all these tens of millions going? Real sucks. About on par with AOL trying to get off a computer. :thumbd:
     
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    They are setting their targets wrong, it shouldn't be to become the most used browser in the world, but instead the browser with the highest quality.
    A very stupid move indeed!, making more money is not going to make the browser any better.

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  8. sosaiso

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    Once again, from a business standpoint, I don't really see anything wrong with selling out to gain marketshare.

    Firefox has to be supported by somebody. Who's going to pay the programmers? So long as their product does not deteriorate, partnering up with Real in order to support their growing finances shouldn't be a bad idea.
     
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    If the objective is only to wage war on other browsers and to make more money for what ever obscure reason then they are on the wrong path.
    That marketshare will come anyway if they stick to making it a quality browser.

    The problem is that you can do business with anybody, even the ones we don't particular like, it's only about making money, it's to one-sided for my taste.

    And bringing IE to it's knees is just an illusion, most of the people will install it and use it because they don't know anything else, or it comes with their new computer when vista arrives late 2010. :)

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  10. sosaiso

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    In theory, in business, of course there are consequences with every decision you make. However, sometimes the pros will outweigh the cons. Sure, FF's consumer base may have something to say about this, but it's not like FF is completely selling out and bundling Real with it's browser, and forcing us to install Real Networks. They're just adding themselves to the media corporation's offerings. Personally, I'll support this move if it keeps Mozilla from going bankrupt in the future.

    Much less about waging war with every other browser. I think this decision was to secure a strong financial backing. With 1.03 billion in total assets, Real could only help the Mozilla Foundation [who, at the end of 2004 only has 5 million in total assets] in support and getting the name out there. I mean, real comes bundled with most computers. Mozilla doesn't.

    Sure there are cons, because Real Networks is a company that can bundle a lot of annoying applications with its product, but here, the pros far outweigh the cons.
     
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    I understand that they need money to survive, but i hope that they have the common sense to watch out who they are doing business with, it could harm their reputation in a bad way if they make the wrong choices, it takes years to build up a good reputation but only 2 seconds to ruin it.

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    I understand your point of view completely.

    And I have confidence that Mozilla will keep away from the really rogue companies, unlike MS, I was just trying to get across that this deal was nothing to get jumpy about.

    Sorry if I came across as... annoying. lol.
     
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    :( All I can say is every time I opened an email from Real Networks I found tracking cookies on my PC. Ad Aware caught them every time !! I have since unsubscribed from all of their emails.

    HR:cool:
     
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    No harm done, i understood what you where saying. ;), everybody has the right to his own opinion.

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  15. sosaiso

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    FYI, it's not just real in this deal.
     
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    Yes i've seen that, it's a 'triumvirate' like they used to have in the ancient roman empire. :)

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  17. nadirah

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    Real Networks, I don't trust them.

    The developers of Firefox partnering with Real Networks? What a joke! These guys are money-driven that's the whole point!!! I WON'T be surprised if any one of their products becomes malicious in any way in the future.

    The developers at Mozilla are so, silly.

    They're practising complacency by taking the easy way out, partnering with all the major companies to get firefox bundled with some pieces of software! Now that's not a wise choice I say. These money-hungry sharks are driving consumers up the wall with all the stuff that they throw at them. A ' Just Take It! ' sort of attitude.

    Maybe they'll give the user a decline option, but doing all this in the first place is not wise at all.
     
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  18. sosaiso

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    From a marketing analyst's standpoint, the decision is beyond wise.

    And btw, Firefox is open source. If there was something malicious from within FF, wouldn't the community be able to spot it? Unless open source isn't what it's cracked up to be.

    :T

    [oh, and btw, Mozilla Foundation is registered as a nonforprofit organization. They're not publicly traded like Google and Real Networks are. Just a thought to keep in mind.]
     
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    nadirah, you will still be able to get FF without these 'options' by downloading it from Mozilla, Real will be bundled with FF, not the other way around.

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