Mozilla Firefox

Discussion in 'other software & services' started by Hadron, Aug 27, 2016.

  1. Keatah

    Keatah Registered Member

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    Shouldn't they make it work first before release?
     
  2. Beyonder

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    They are fully automatic.
     
  3. kronckew

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    Reasonably Frequent updates give us the benefits of advances quicker, and also allow Mozilla to get feedback on bugs that can then be corrected, hopefully more quickly, and feedback on some of the crappy changes they inflict on us without warning, like the creeping Chromization and removal of customization options. Hopefully some criticism might encourage then to think about what the users want instead of what the programmers think they should have.
     
  4. Brummelchen

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    which is not existant. firefox looks and behave complete different. similarities are an agreement of 3 vendors: mozilla, google and microsoft. this affects from my view only extensions and the optimization of css. mozilla is fading out the moz- tag while google do same with webkit-. google points to the MDN concerning javascript - in fact mozilla has inserted more changes to googles javascript as google into mozilla. and mozilla had monetary benefit :D
    although chrome may be the most used browser - google is no tech leader, nevertheless they have the power to push their own products.
     
  5. Rasheed187

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    Yes Mozilla is going downhill, real fast. Why can't they offer some of the functions of Vivaldi, is this too much to ask?

    That would be even worse. I would like to stay in control of updates, without any nagging.
     
  6. Beyonder

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    That's a good thing for you, but a bad thing for the overwhelming majority of users that will never update their apps manually, ever.
     
  7. Daveski17

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    You keep stating this, but I'm not sure in what way. Firefox is still the best all-round browser on Ubuntu and macOS in my experience. I ran Vivaldi on Linux for three years (including the original beta). It's a decent browser but still managed to break more pages for me than Firefox.
     
  8. misterman2100

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    Doesn't seem as if they're going downhill fast - it's a matter of keeping up with the Joneses. I'm all for it so as long as they keep up with fixing glaring vulnerabilities. I don't need some visionary changes that they decide to implement over the course of x-amount of months. I want something that works - as many people have stated - and doesn't get in my way.
     
  9. Rasheed187

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    I already explained, it's about a lack of customization. You could do this in the past via certain extensions, but they won't work anymore. The bookmarks manager is also crap, it's not tab based. And now they even keep nagging about updates.
     
  10. Daveski17

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    That's not 'going downhill fast' though is it? That's 'my personal preference isn't Firefox'. Which is subjective. Personally, and subjectively, I think Firefox is getting better overall.

    I admit the days of hugely customisable browsers are over, but I can live with that if the browser is safe, reliable, functional and not Chrome.

    Firefox doesn't nag me on Mac or Ubuntu. Perhaps it only nags on Vista and XP.
     
  11. Rasheed187

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    It's going downhill for me, isn't that what this forum is about, giving our opinions? I believe Firefox should be more like Vivaldi. They can make Firefox as bare bones as they want, but at least give people the choice to change certain options. Then I would be willing to switch back. Because I do believe that Firefox uses less resources and the browsing engine is pretty fast when compared to Vivaldi.
     
  12. bo elam

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    You still can disable Firefox updates. Disabling automatic updates cant be set as easy as it used to but still can be done. I update Firefox at my own pace. No nagging.

    Sin título.jpg

    Bo
     
  13. Daveski17

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    Yeah, I see where you're coming from, but I still reckon 'going downhill fast' is unnecessary and inaccurate hyperbole.
     
  14. Daveski17

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    This must be a Windows thing. Fx updates with the system updates on Ubuntu and I never get nagged on macOS. :D
     
  15. bo elam

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    Hi Daveski, I don't know about other systems but on Windows, until recently there used to be a setting (Never check for updates) in Firefox Options to disable automatic updates. That setting doesn't exist anymore. Now, to disable Firefox from checking for updates automatically, you have to create a policy, write it down in a policies.json file that the user creates and place inside a folder that you also create and name "distribution", afterward, you put this folder inside your Firefox folder in Program files. All this looks like this and disables Firefox automatic checks for updates.

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  16. Daveski17

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    OK thanks Bo. Updating is probably on auto on my Mac, although I occasionally check it anyway. On Ubuntu Fx is the default browser and it updates with the other Canonical updates.

    fx.jpg

    I don't actually see any advantage in turning off auto-updating in Firefox even if I could.

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    hi
    may i ask a question?
    is there a schedule for the next firefox update that won't let you used anti-ads ?
    the last version is 60.0.1 , is there a way to block it 100% ? to avoid autoupdate?
    tahnks
     
  19. Daveski17

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    Screenshot 2019-09-30 at 15.15.27.png

    And there's this I suppose. Fx doesn't nag me on macOS though.
     
  20. Brummelchen

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    said the dumb, you never asked...

    chrome://browser/content/places/places.xul
    and bookmark it

    mozilla advertising - turn it off in settings > start page?
    ofc there is more in prefs if you dare.
    latest 60ESR currently is 60.9.0 - any other is seriously vulnerable - dont get it why people stick with the old crap and like to be exploited.
    and its possible to use policies for all current firefox builds.
    https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/enterprise-policy-generator/
     
  21. BoerenkoolMetWorst

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    Huh? Afaik only Chrome and Safari are limiting the power of adblockers, I haven't heard anything about Firefox doing the same.
     
  22. reasonablePrivacy

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    Chrome, Chromium and most of Chromium-based browsers are going to block web request API. There are exceptions such as Vivaldi.
    Firefox doesn't have plans for blocking web request API.
     
  23. Daveski17

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    Safari isn't Chrome/Blink based.
     
  24. bo elam

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    The only reason I have (and I think, for my case use is a good reason) is that since I am always running sandboxed, things work out better by keeping Automatic updates turned off and do them at my own pace. I usually do them when I am willing to run the browser unsandboxed for a few minutes. For me updating Firefox is a routine that takes a little while: delete my policies.json file from Program files, run Firefox unsandboxed, Update, restart Firefox a couple of times to make sure the update is applied, update NoScript if there is a beta update available, apply the update, since I am running unsandboxed I only visit one site while applying the updates and doing this routine, here, close the browser, put back my policies.json file in Programs files, start Firefox to make sure the policies are working OK, close the browser and run the browser sandboxed, close the browser and reboot the computer. Run CCleaner to delete the cookies that we get while updating Firefox.

    Done, and ready to go :)

    Bo
     
  25. mantra

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    hi
    I guess I have misunderstood it , I was sure was firefox
    in these last year i have used mostly chrome , even i have been always a firefox user
     
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