Microsoft wants to close the UWP, Win32 divide with 'Windows Apps'

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  1. mood

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    Microsoft wants to close the UWP, Win32 divide with 'Windows Apps'
    Microsoft Corporate VP Kevin Gallo explains the latest twists in Microsoft's long and winding Windows developer platform strategy
    May 8, 2019
    https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-wants-to-close-the-uwp-win32-divide-with-windows-apps/
     
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    Sounds good to me, I guess M$ has realized it will be too difficult to force developers to rewrite their apps to UWP, and I'm also worried that you won't be able to control UWP apps. On the other hand, they should already be secure out of the box.
     
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    Microsoft’s Universal Windows Platform app dream is dead and buried
    May 30, 2019
    https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/30/...indows-app-dead-microsoft-store-windows-store
     
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    No real point in UWP since they killed the phone.
     
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    But Always Connected PC powered by ARMv8 processors are available, so they should deliver something capable running on amd64 (AMD and Intel) and ARMv8 (Qualcomm and others) CPUs.
     
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    Those will probably be as successful as the Surface with Windows RT was. I saw one once. A coworker bought it for $200 after they were discontinued.
     
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    Well, from a security point of view it would have been interesting because all UWP apps run sandboxed, which makes them less vulnerable to being exploited and less capable to perform malicious actions. I believe macOS does the same for certain apps that are developed by Apple.
     
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    Meh, sandboxing hasn't been the security answer they promoted it as being. Everything has a back door.
     
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    Are you kidding me, sandboxing is a must. It has basically almost solved the problem of browser exploits. And let's say you would install a UWP app, it would have only rights to modify and read its own folder, so this in theory would protect against data stealing and encryption by ransomware.
     
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    Sure, it should work like that. But if it did, we wouldn't be here.
     
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    There are different types of sandboxes. Some are built inside programs and must be designed specifically by program developers (OpenSSH's server, Chromium), other are more external ones (less fine grained) such as Android's environment for programs.
     
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    That's why I wondered how it would have worked in practice. Perhaps it would solve quite a lot of security problems. I believe that UWP apps all run via AppContainer. But Sandboxie can't control such apps, so that would be a big problem.

    Like I said above, I believe AppContainer would protect against exploits, plus it might also protect the system against malware that you run yourself, because UWP apps have got limited rights out of the box.
     
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