Matousec's new Firewall Challenge "wrinkle"

Discussion in 'other anti-malware software' started by wat0114, Apr 20, 2008.

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  1. Atomas31

    Atomas31 Registered Member

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    I totally agree with you! In fact, it is strange to see Prosecurity wich is not a firewall finishing in third place in a "supposing" firewall testing...
     
  2. WilliamP

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    If anyone doesn't believe that money will corrupt the outcome,just look at our politicians.
     
  3. alex_s

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    I think it depends. In case the tax is constant, you cannot make every tested product the first. Another point, if you run the test for money you are interested that product failed and was retested again :)
     
  4. alex_s

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    Very strange is your resut.

    ===
    Security Software Testing Suite - Kill1
    Copyright by Matousec - Transparent security
    http://www.matousec.com/

    Unable to open process PID 1144 directly, trying handle stealing method ...
    Error code: 5
    Unable to open process PID 3324 directly, trying handle stealing method ...
    Error code: 5

    YOUR SYSTEM PASSED THE TEST!
    ===

    Did you configure ssts.conf properly ?
     
  5. faenil

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    Maybe we're not talking about the same Kill1...isn't it the one in APT 4.0?
     
  6. larryb52

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    guy doesn't need money, I refuse to look at the list, his results have always IMO been suspect...
     
  7. Smokey

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    Wrong.

    To vendors it is obvious that with failed products they will lose existing customers and discourage potential ones.

    So if i run a test for money i will be sure the test result will satisfy the paid customer, otherwise the customer will cease his payments to me.
     
  8. ErikAlbert

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    I follow my own brain and instinct to keep my computer clean. Matousec doesn't tell me anything new, my general readings on the internet told me this already.
    Matousec is a waste of time to me, I prefer to read new ideas that might improve my security.
     
  9. Perman

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    Hi,, Yes, I concur.

    I would do trials and errors behind sences, until it is ripe for show and tell.

    Any technical writer(this term perhaps is better suited for this ex-new kid on the block--back in summer 0f 2006 ?) who dares to adopt this foolish approach is digging his/here own grave pit.----awaitng the final nail to be spiked onto his c--f--n.

    What a moral down turn !
     
  10. Smokey

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    As far i know, on May 19, 2006 trooper Matousec announced his existence for the first time on CastleCops, via a spam post:

    http://www.castlecops.com/pstp770180-.html#770180

    Quote from that post:

    Don't worry, he is very occupied with digging his own grave and will succeed with this endeavour:)
     
  11. LoneWolf

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    Hmmmm.......Snnniiffff.......Yep smells like it was spam.

    But like I said in my earlyer post, this does not make me think any less of him or his testing....................Since I only took it with a grain of salt to begin with.
     
  12. alex_s

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    Apt 4.2 here. Passed every test twice. 100%. And it was also confirmed by testmypc guy who tested v 119 and failed only kill7 (killtask), which was fixed few weeks ago.
     
  13. alex_s

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    How can you know it is wrong ? We could see that some products were retested very soon after they got the results that didn't satisfy them. So it is likely you are wrong. And what is a sense to satisy customer ? Once a customer is satisfied there is nothing to pay for next time. BTW, in case you suspect that results are incorrect, you can take the tests, the methodology and make a proof results are wrong. Just use HIS methodology, not YOURTH.
     
  14. Smokey

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    With his commercial move Matousec compromised his credentials.
    Everyone is free to put trust in him and his tests, to me he is dispatched and filed as being "dubious case" and therefore a closed chapter.
    IMO he and his tests are contaminated territory.
     
  15. alex_s

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    I can say only about myself. For me his move is quite natural. He did a lot of very hard and resource/time-consuming work nobody dared or cared to do. He would be crasy not to try to take some compensation. Yes, I know, people do like much when somebody does something for them for free. But I'm not. I know that if somebody does something for free there very likely is some hidden background, and I prefer that cards were open.
     
  16. faenil

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    hey man my online armor is the latest version and fails KILL 7, KILL 10, KILL 1..OA free version 2.1.0.131 ofc...testing in VirtualPC

    P.S: Tried with 4.2 as well...
     
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  17. alex_s

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    This is just impossible. It was checked many times. But if you disabled HIPS, then this is possible.
     
  18. faenil

    faenil Registered Member

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    hey man it IS possible ^^
    I can post video prooves ;) Dunno if there's something wrong with my pc...but my OA fails kill 1,7,10...and passes all the rest, so HIPS is not disabled^^
     
  19. alex_s

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    Please, do it :) Or better PM with attach, because I'm leaving for 2 weeks and in 2 weeks subject will likely scroll too far :)
     
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