Discussion in 'other anti-malware software' started by webster, Nov 2, 2009.
Have you been using their product? I saw you listed as a forum member over there. I noticed one member that is defending Iobit here and over at their forum. I can't help but think that he is associated with them or has an axe to grind with MBAM
ye i WAS using their product, but their forum is full of idiots so im not bothering anymore, its clear iobit is guilty all ther is to it.
Wot users are hammering them with negaitve ratings, and I noticed download.com has a few people giving comments referring to this issue with them.
good to hear.
I tried the program when it first came out and thankfully wasn't impressed.
Been this long and they still haven't responded I say guilty. I Definitely am very happy with MBAM and trust the validity of their accusation.
A reply from IObit:
Yes, I think that is the problem. People have reacted too early and damaged a reputation without taking another side into consideration. But that is the internet for you
I hope this clears a lot of things up.
It's not really a response, it's more the cry of "I didn't do it" from someone being dragged to the gallows. Hopefully the 'legal letter' due later will present the case for the defense.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But I do not believe that users should go around bashing a product yet. That should be left to the courts and between the CEO's and developers.
A few things:
In http://www.softsailor.com/downloads...rity-360-pro-and-get-a-free-1-year-trial.html it says MBAM is part of IObit.
About the post(s) on the Iobit forum: their English is terrible, and they state they ask their users and 'fans' to submit samples so they can get signatures.
How unprofessional can you get ?
My bet is that they use MBAM somehow. However, since they are in China it may be difficult to take action against IObit.
~ Comment snipped - let's stay on the main point here - Blue ~
One more good reason to stick to reputable vendors for signature-based antimalware programs. That's what I do.
How would that clear anything up Have you looked at the evidence MBAM has brought forth? The traps they have set? I would love to hear some theories as to how Iobits database all of the sudden had detection for the fake files
"the courts" will never happen given that iobit is Chinese. And what really matters here is what the general public, users and purchasers of their software think. This one is going to be played out in the court of public opinion, so iobit need to present their defense, which so far consists of "hey guys, we wouldn't do that would we? No way..not us...come on fellas, give us a break!".
The evidence seems indeed crushing. You don't need Hercule Poirot to see that IObit is playing a dirty game.
Here's their first response on how they were detecting the sample Malwarebytes planted:
"Maybe one of our user scanned the file with MBAM and ours cannot detect it, then he submitted it and fill the same name as MBAM detected, then some new staff in our company may put it into our database. As I said, we are new face in this market, some of our staff do not have enough experience, they might make some mistake."
A rather dubious reply IMHO.
I had IObit 360 installed. Then it occurred to me, that I should clean out residue of Norton 2010 with Norton's extra uninstall tool. That smashed IObit. How do we explain that?
I know a simple solution for this guys from Malwarebytes. Start adding Iobit Security 360 files to malware definitions. So their own software will be detected by "their own" signatures, corrupting itself in the process. Lol.
WOT turned yellow now. I don't understand why people leave the "Child Safety" category alone. Letting a child install or run stolen software - how safe is that?
I think most of ppl think "Child safety" falls under web pages that contain blood, violence, bad language, porn content etc. Well, that's the magic of WOT where community is making decisions. It's not the best but at least it's something.
The problem of guilt or not is always best assessed with both sides of the story, however IObit's initial lacklustre response and forum sanctions have done nothing but add fuel to the, "there's no smoke without fire" reaction. Seems poor judgement on their part IMO. Trust is hard to build back up as we've seen with other security products....
Yes, probably. But it is strange that people warn the adults about illegal content but not the children...
The post in the link really is the most incriminating information surfaced yet. And note the date on it. I'm dumbfounded...
Also exile366 posted this on MBAM's forum. It qoutes IObit's moderators: http://www.malwarebytes.org/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=29681&view=findpost&p=152924
Hi all IObit form is very much out of reality ... people still been banned posts still been deleted.. IObit is playing hard ball .........
they seem to be going down the path of denying everything... a providing "proof" that doesnt really prove them innocent...
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