Laptop, bloatware and SSD.

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  1. aladdin

    aladdin Registered Member

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    Every laptop comes with two legal keys. One is the OEM key and the other key is pasted under the laptop as an sticker, on the Microsoft Windows sticker. Any laptop that is legally purchased, and which comes with Windows operating system, the owner of the laptop purchases the Windows too.

    Thus, the two legal keys.

    Sometimes, the laptop is sold without Windows CD, other times the Windows CD comes with bloatware and drivers. And, other times the Windows CD comes by itself along with a second CD, which contians the bloatware and drivers.

    Thus, anyone who wants to do clean install, either on the same hard drive, or a changed hard drive such as SSD, then one can legally download Windows from Microsoft site and use the legal key provided under the laptop on the Microsoft sticker.

    The drivers should be available free of charge from the manufacturer of the laptop, from their support site.

    Of course, if the original laptop came with the original Windows 7 Home Premium Edition x64, so the legal key works only for that Windows and nothing else.

    Best regards,

    KOR!

    P.S. Especially, on a SSD, it is much better to do clean install, then trying to move (clone) and align.
     
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    Even those who don't want to do clean install. I will recommend them to write down the 25 characters xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxx key under their laptops and notebooks from the Microsoft sticker, and keep it in a safe place.

    With time, wear and tear, this key tends to fade away. Better to be safe than sorry!

    Best regards,

    KOR!
     
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    Please change the first link you posted. Automated EXE download is absolutely not appreciated. :mad:
     
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    Is it possible to download windows directly from Microsoft with a valid licence key? o_O
     
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    Yes, you can download any version of Windows, meaning XP, Vista, 7 and so forth without a valid license key.

    Most countries has very slow download, Windows 7 x32 is 3.2gb and Windows 7 x64 is 3.6gb. Both massive downlaods.

    So, most companies downlaod only one flavor of Windows x32 and Windows 7 x64, which is the Enterprise Edition. Thus, a total download of 6.8gb.

    Since the companies might have or at home I have more than one flavor, such as Home Edition, Home Premium Edition, Professional Edition, Enterprises Edition and Ultimate Edition, so by changing the .cfg with a text editor this one flavor of Enterprise can be changed to all flavors. However, x32 bits cannot be changed to x64 bits.

    On installation, pick the proper flavor from the menu given and install. Activate it with your legal key after installation.

    In fact, if you have installed the Home Premium Edition and want to upgrade to the Ultimate Edition, you don't have to format and re-install. Just put the Ultimate Edition legal key and it will automatically change to the Ultimate Edition. It is the legal key, which decides the type of flavor.

    On any installation, the whole Windows Ultimate is installed on the computer, and the key restrict it to the lower flavors.
     
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    Here is a link for Windows 7 ISO (Official 32-bit and 64-bit Direct Download Links)

    http://www.mydigitallife.info/2010/...cial-32-bit-and-64-bit-direct-download-links/

    All flavors are listed. But if you have in your home, Windows 7 x64 Professional Edition and Windows 7 x64 Home Premium Edition, just download one flavor, convert it to all flavors before burning the ISO.

    Like this you will also have one Windows 7 CD for all flavors of Windows 7 x64 installations.
     
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    There is lots of confusion in people's mind that if they buy some software are they not allowed to use that software for lifetime. If you buy something, then you can use it for lifetime. Of course, I am not talking about future upgrades.

    Same thing, when you buy a laptop and it comes for example with pre-installed Windows 7 x64, then you have bought that software. As a owner of that software, you have all rights to that software, even using it for lifetime on the same computer.
     
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    You do not buy software, you buy a license - and you certainly do not "have all rights to that software". And no, there is no automated lifetime right to use the software either. You are apparently confused yourself, plus this "how to turn Windows 7 X edition into Y edition" has already been locked once. :rolleyes:
     
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    Please don't hijack this thread. I have learned a lot from others on this forum and I am grateful for this, to this forum and to those people. Therefore, I am trying to part some of my knowledge to others.

    So, please don't hijack the thread.

    If you buy a software with one year free updates, you can still use that software for lifetime, however after one year you won't be eligible for updates any more.

    So, please don't hijack the thread.

    BTW, Microsoft legally allows you to change Windows 7 Home Edition to Windows 7 Ultimate Edition, provided you have the legal key for it.

    So, please don't hijack the thread.
     
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    WTH? The subject of this thread (which you have chosen yourself BTW) is Laptop, bloatware and SSD. This stuff has nothing to do with the topic of this thread, so I would suggest you keep on topic and stop posting stuff that that already got another thread locked. There are other sites which are almost fully dedicated to messing with Windows licensing and activation, such as -http://forums.mydigitallife.info-

    Also, you are posting completely misleading information from the legal POV, since how long are you allowed to use the software and under which conditions entirely depends on the license terms you have agreed to (so far as they are legally enforceable in courts).

    :rolleyes:
     
  14. Peter2150

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    Blanket statements about legal use of software is very dangerous.

    In most cases with MS operating systems, if it is a retail version you do have lifetime rights and can move it from machine to machine.

    However in many cases OEM licenses don't offer that freedom, but may indeed limit to a specific owner, of a specific machine, which means when you give the machine away, that OS is no longer legally licensed to anyone.

    Pete
     
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    Hi Pete,

    Agreed. The OEM licenses are usually tied to the machines bought. However, with laptops, there are two legal keys given. One OEM and one under the laptop. Both keys are specific to that machine, as the version installed is OEM and cheaply acquired by OEM from Microsoft.

    This second key under the laptop, allows for clean install on the same laptop or to install into an another hard drive on the same laptop, if the hard disk fails, or if one upgrades to SSD or to a higher capacity hard disk on the same laptop.

    Best regards,

    KOR!
     
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    There are several keys included with all computers. For this Dell desktop, SIW reports a Windows 7 Home Premium Key/Windows Product Key, a Windows Default Product Key, and a Windows PID (OEM Key). There is also the "Product Key", which appears on the sticker, and is different to these. Four different keys.
     
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