Kristal Safe Way 2012 [0.0.0.x Beta]

Hello everyone!

I am Kardo Kristal - developer and CEO of Kristal Safe Way & Kristal Security.

I´d like to introduce new product called Kristal Safe Way 2012. This program protect you against drive-by-downloads & support currently these browser: Mozilla Firefox & Internet Explorer.

Program is absolutely for free and is very light on your system. This is first public beta version & is available for download from Kristal Security website - http://www.kristalsecurity.com, under "Download" page.

If you have any problem with program then feel free to tell me via this forum.

Kristal Security - http://www.kristalsecurity.com

Best regards,
Kardo Kristal

 

Re: Kristal Safe Way 2012 [0.0.0.1 Beta]

Hi Kardo, haven't tested the SecurityInstaller.exe yet (SHA1: cfb5b466b168336fdaa84165b1dece66016468f3) but when putting it through VirusTotal, it came up with one hit from Dr. Web.
Have you contacted them and asked why they flag it as malware?

Could you perhaps also explain here how f.i. browser protection works, what active protection actually means, which security programs can be used together with yours instead of a generic 'You can use Kristal Security together with other security programs, no conflicts with other programs.'
Perhaps a bit of info on your (programming) background etc.

 

Re: Kristal Safe Way 2012 [0.0.0.1 Beta]

Hi Baserk,

Thank you for the report.

This must be false positive by Dr.Web. Maybe this is because of Installer. I made installer with Bytessence InstallMaker. Anyway i have to work on this.

I have to take contact with Dr.web because of this is false positive.

You asked questions about Kristal Security. Okay, i hoped that you try my another product what is in title called Kristal Safe Way 2012.

Answers to your questions:

Kristal Security is basic anti-malware product and work with all other antivirus products. It can detect very basic malware. Databse source what my program is using is from malc0de website.

Anyway i recommend to use my 2nd security product: Kristal Safe Way 2012, because this program protect browsers against silent downloads.

You asked how this is working. I´ll try to explain.

Program watch for mozilla & IE surfing folders (where temp files located).
Safe Way then lock these temp files and disable automatic execution (turns execution mode off for files), but this don´t cause any slowdowns while you are surfing.

Screenshots of Kristal Security 2012 http://kristalsecurity.com/ksimages/ksimage1.png

Kristal Security 2012 download: -http://dl.dropbox.com/u/47450407/Kristal%20Security%20installer.exe-

Screenshot of Kristal Safe Way 2012 http://kristalsecurity.com/kswimages/kswimage1.png

Kristal Safe Way 2012 download: -http://dl.dropbox.com/u/47450407/Kristal%20Safe%20Way%202012%20-%20Public/Kristal%20Safe%20Way%20installer.exe-

Best Regards,
Kardo Kristal

 

Re: Kristal Safe Way 2012 [0.0.0.1 Beta]

Just keep you updated: i just uploaded my program in zip format: no detection or false positives. I need to make new installers.

 

Re: Kristal Safe Way 2012 [0.0.0.1 Beta]

Hello everyone,

Dr.Web flag our product as malware in virustotal, but this is false positive, because only 1 scanner of 42 reports our product as malware.

Kristal Security is flagged by Dr.Web - 1 of 42

and

Kristal Safe Way is flagged by Jiangmin - 1 of 42

I just want to inform everyone that you don´t have to afraid and you can safely download and use our products. If any questions, feel free to ask.

Best Regards,
Kardo Kristal

 

Re: Kristal Safe Way 2012 [0.0.0.1 Beta]

Did you submit your product to Dr.Web as a false positive?

 

Re: Kristal Safe Way 2012 [0.0.0.1 Beta]

I am working on it and i will take contact immediately with Dr.Web & Jiangmin about these false positives.

Regard,
Kardo

 

Re: Kristal Safe Way 2012 [0.0.0.1 Beta]

Hello,

UPDATE: We sent our products for Dr.Web & Jiangmin.

Report sent to Dr.Web was successful & we hope that they remove false positive.

There is a problem with Jiangmin email because i got back this response from them:

-----

Hi. This is the qmail-send program at mail.jiangmin.com.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

<english@jiangmin.com>:
user is over quota

----

Best regards,
Kardo Kristal

 

Re: Kristal Safe Way 2012 [0.0.0.1 Beta]

I guess your program doesn't like VM

 

Re: Kristal Safe Way 2012 [0.0.0.1 Beta]

Hello icr,

Sorry that my program can´t run on Virtual Machine.

Best regards,
Kardo Kristal

 

Re: Kristal Safe Way 2012 [0.0.0.1 Beta]

You can try our Kristal Safe Way 2012 on VM, i tried to run it on
VirtualBox & worked. NB! Both programs require .NET Framework 4.

Best regards,
Kardo Kristal

 

Re: Kristal Safe Way 2012 [0.0.0.1 Beta]

Hi again icr,

i think i found solution for your problem.

Please update your .net framework on virtual machine.
You can find latest .Net framework by Microsoft from here: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/netframework/aa569263

After .Net framework installation, reboot VM, reinstall Kristal Security or Kristal Safe Way & try to start program again. If this not help then please tell me.

Regards,
Kardo Kristal

 

Kristal Safe Way 2012 [0.0.0.2 Beta] - added Google Chrome support

Hello,

Kristal Safe Way 2012 - 2nd beta is now available for download.

New feature added:

* Google Chrome support (under Protected Applications)

Now you can surf safely with 3 major browser:

* Mozilla Firefox
* Internet Explorer
* Google Chrome

Additional information you can find from: http://www.kristalsecurity.com

NB! .NET Framework 4 is required to use Kristal Safe Way 2012.

Note (Jiangmin reports our product as malware - this is false positive. Only 1 scanner of 43 scanners from VirusTotal report this result).

Best Regards,
Kardo Kristal

 

Re: Kristal Safe Way 2012 [0.0.0.2 Beta] - added Google Chrome support

is it 64 bit system ready?

 

Does it support 64 bit? Also, since you are preventing executing of files from temp folders of the browsers, can you also add to prevent execution for usb drives?

 

Re: Kristal Safe Way 2012 [0.0.0.1 Beta]

Why not set an AGE maximum in the settings for malware URL. When I tested Chrome's build in phising protection with URL's from malware domain, it lagged 30 minutes to 4 hours. All older URL entries were protected by Chrome. So when your program updates these lists say every 10 minutes, throw away those malware URL's entries of malc0de when they are older than 24 hours (keeps your local DB neat and slim also).

When you promote it to be a companion security tool, make it a GOOD companion by preventing overlap. This also benefits the performance of your program

How does it achieve this, something simular like Icacls can deny generic execute rights?

By the way does not recognise Chromium unzipped in a custom directory, may be add an option to include programs to monitor?

 

Re: Kristal Safe Way 2012 [0.0.0.2 Beta] - added Google Chrome support

Hi jmonge,

Thank you for your interest.

Sorry, but no tests on 64-bit Operating system yet.

If anyone tried Kristal Security products under 64-bit operating system then please tell us results, any errors or performance issues.

If not working under 64-bit system then i am starting to working this out.

Attention: 0.0.0.2 Beta version have performance issue, memory usage growing...

I am working on this performance issue & i will release next update as soon as possible.

Note: Excuse me if i make mistakes in English. My native language is Estonian.

Regards,
Kardo Kristal

 

Hi LowWaterMark,

Thank you that you merged threads

You are absolutely right.

Regards,
Kardo Kristal

 

Hi skudo12,

Thank you for your interest.

Same answer to you as for jmonge:

Sorry, but no tests on 64-bit Operating system yet.

If anyone tried Kristal Security products under 64-bit operating system then please tell us results, any errors or performance issues.

If not working under 64-bit system then i am starting to working this out.

I plan to add support for USB drives too in future builds - thank you for this suggestion.

Regards,
Kardo Kristal

 

Re: Kristal Safe Way 2012 [0.0.0.1 Beta]

Hi Kees1958,

Thank you for your interest & suggestion.

It is good suggestion about program local database.

I am starting to working on this. At this time i am commited for Kristal Safe Way application.
I try to fix performance issue on 0.0.0.2 Beta version & will release new build as soon as possible.

Yes, Kristal Safe Way working similarly like Cacls.

Yes, at the moment this not support custom applications/locations but it is good suggestion for future builds - I´ll try to add option for custom programs to monitor.

I also plan to make Kristal Security portable version and same for Kristal Safe Way for better usage everywhere.

If there are any errors in beta versions then i hope that you forgave me because i am the only developer of these two programs.

Best regards,
Kardo Kristal

 

Hi everyone,

Kristal Safe Way 2012 [0.0.0.3 Beta] is available.

Why this new release is important:

This release 2012 [0.0.0.3 Beta] is working now correctly. I fixed
performance issue in this release & memory usage should stay low on your computer.

From picture you can see Kristal Safe Way 2012 [Beta 0.0.0.3] memory usage on my computer: http://i.imgur.com/pbbIs.png

Also is now available portable version of Kristal Safe Way 2012 [0.0.0.3 Beta].

All information & download you can find from our website: http://www.kristalsecurity.com

Regards,
Kardo Kristal

 

It installed fine on my x64 system. I haven't tested it because it did not detect my Waterfox installation, Waterfox is a 64 bit optimized firefox which uses the same profile folder for firefox. It did detect IE9, will wait for your future build which add supports for USB drives and custom applications/locations.

 

Hi skudo12,

Thank you for your interest & information

That is good that Kristal Safe Way Work under 64-bit operating systems.

There is one thing i´d like to know about Waterfox & detection you mentioned:

You mean that Waterfox is not detected under Protected Applications list? or you mean that no increasing notes under Watchlist or both?

If not detected under Applications List then all is correct.

Please can you try to test WaterFox with Kristal Safe Way & tell me if Watchlist notes increase or not while you are testing.

Try this way: Start Kristal Safe Way (with Administrator privileges & make sure that Safe Way is enabled), then start Waterfox & try to surf to youtube.com for example.

If Watchlist is not increasing then let me know or if increasing then let me know as well.

Best regards,
Kardo Kristal

 

Hello, I'll try it if I have anytime, I have some exams coming this week. . Yep, it's not detected in the Application list. Also, I found out that you can open many instances of Safe Way, I accidentally opened it twice, lol.