KeyScrambler

Discussion in 'privacy technology' started by John Bull, Aug 16, 2010.

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  1. John Bull

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    This has come up on another post as a freebie that scrambles your key strokes and de-scrambles them at the receiving end. No discussion, just mentioned.

    It reads good and is only an Add-on. The whole thing aimed at defeating keyloggers.
    http://www.qfxsoftware.com/

    I would love your comments on this piece of magic. Looks too good to be true. Surely the Bogey Men are not going to surrender to a simple Add-on ?

    John B
     
  2. dw426

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    With everything you're running in your sig, you don't need it John, lol. It works just fine...for preventing most keyloggers from reading your keystrokes. It doesn't prevent keyloggers from getting there to begin with, which is a far more important step in security. P.S, if past experience is any indication, be prepared with your OS disk and/or restore images/backups. The last time I had it, upon removal I had to reinstall a generic driver for my keyboard in order to type with it again.
     
  3. wtsinnc

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    I've been using keyscrambler (free) for about eight months.
    No apparent hit on system resources in terms of speed or page rendering.
    In normal use, it's pretty much invisible.
    Can't tell if it's ever saved me, but it's been months- close to a year since an infection.
    I've been running XP Home SP-2 most of the time with Sandboxie but no resident AV or AM.

    In case you haven't already been there, I'm providing a link that describes the differences and level(s) of protection among the three versions.
    http://www.qfxsoftware.com/ks-windows/which-keyscrambler.htm
     
  4. Greg S

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    You'll find alot of folks in favor of it. I personally don't like it because it's always been buggy for me in any setup. A similar product is NextGen AntiKeylogger. Same thing, buggy
     
  5. Warlockz

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    I used Keyscrambler for 3 years on xp pro and some time on Windows 7 and never had any problems with it being as you say "Buggy" Perhaps you may want to check and double check your machine for malware and or any other problems your machine may be having!
     
  6. Greg S

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    Hey, excellent idea! Let me get right on that. I never though that could be the problem,lol. No it's not malware. If anything it could possibly be a conflict with another security app more valuable than scrambling text in a text box.
     
  7. Warlockz

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    Keyscrambler is basically overkill anyways, I don't use it anymore either, if people are that paranoid they've been or are going to be infected with a keylogger and need keyscrambler just in case, than their using a security software they obviously don't trust will stop malicious software from being installed, or they wouldn't be using Keyscrambler in the first place.
     
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    Yes, I tend to agree with this. My biggest bug with KeyScrambler was when using it with Firefox in an XP boot. When using the AddOn Stylish, it had a tendency to corrupt stylish rdf. The other key scrambling app I mentioned, after the initial install, none of the options worked. It still scrambled keystrokes but the options dialog was useless. Uninstalling it was pistol as well.
     
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    KeyScrambler Professional
    has worked flawlessly for about one (1) year! :thumb:
     
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    Hello :D Im using Premium version and i must say that KeyScrambler Rocks :D :D
     
  11. korben

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    Contrary to the general view - not gonna try it again..soon
    Installed the PRO version for testing purposes...watched BSOD on my win7 for the 1st time ever...even if it's Retunil's or Agnitum's incompatibility...
     
  12. John Bull

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    Just a general appraisal.

    On Wilders, we enjoy an infinite encyclopedia of absolute expertise and knowledge. We are privileged to operate in a very specialised world of wisdom.

    I would think that our expertise amounts to 1 out of 10, 90% of users are just everyday uneducated and gullible Internet users, barely going beyond the logon procedure. They plonk in their credit card details, bank details and just about everything else, do their thing and feel they are safe from theft. WRONG !

    In my life, all the Internet users I know are just ordinary people, housewives, husbands, kids and pet parrot`s. They know absolutely nothing about all the threats discussed on this Forum. They think they are perfectly safe because they have some off-the-shelf potted AV and Firewall.

    Whilst we have the ability to protect our systems to the ultimate extent of putting a plug up a duck`s butt to make it water tight, they wander about in the Badlands like Babes in the Wood.

    I do not know why there are not millions of cases where the bad guys steal credit card or bank details from Mr.& Mrs.John Doe every day of the week. But I do not hear of such an epidemic. Is there some exaggeration being constantly forced upon us to induce a paranoia of buying unnecessary software ?

    I did see a case on the net where some business guy had $90,000 stolen from his bank account by a keylogger who deposited it in a Chinese bank under his own name. The victim sued his bank for compensation. The Judge`s verdict went against him for not having adequate security on his computer. He lost his cash. So, if you lose your bucks and it is your fault for not having adequate security on your computer - then say good-bye to it and think of that guy in China enjoying the high life and infinite take-aways on your money.

    It`s a bad, bad world. I think I`ll take the dog for a walk.

    John B
     
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  13. John Bull

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    I appreciate the advice given as I always do, but thought I would try this attractive KeyScarmbler just for kicks.

    It went in with no problems and works fine behind the scenes - you don`t even know it is there. BUT ! every time I open FF a nag panel comes up see ;-

    KeyScrambler panel.JPG

    I am certainly not putting up with this infernal nuisance. Can any of our highly respected geeks tell me how to get rid of it. Otherwise KeyScrambler gets dumped mighty quick. Sounds like a Regedit tweak. But I cannot see how to kill it.

    Many thanks
    John B
     
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    No nag panel here, never has been ( using for the last year)
     
  15. caspian

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    From what I understand, several of the top anti-virsus companies white list commercial keyloggers. Their rationale is that they have legitimate uses. So maybe maybe a commercial keylogger like Eblaster could be remotely installed and your top of the line security set up will intentionally allow it.

    http://www.spectorsoft.com/products/eblaster_windows/help/v50/webhelp/eBlaster_Remote_Install.htm
     
  16. LockBox

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    A few thoughts....

    1. I agree with DW that you don't have to worry about this if you keep keyloggers off your computer in the first place. Instant restore is a safe way to assure you are booting back to a secure state. (Just make sure your 'secure state' is, in fact, secure!)

    2. JohnBull, I think the expertise on Wilders is more like 1 in 100. You couldn't find 1 in every 10 users that understand encryption, imaging, and everything else in the security toolbox.

    3. Caspian, I don't know about the AV scanners, but I know that Super AntiSpyware and MAM catches all keylogging software. Spector, SpyAgent, PCA monitor, Soft activity, etc.

    4. Hardware keyloggers should never be a concern if you care about security enough to use software to detect keyloggers. If your computer's physical security is compromised -- game's up anyway.
     
  17. John Bull

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    I understand exactly what you say and support every word of it, but I do consider Wilders as a unique facility for information and help. Of course I can distinguish who is knowledgeable and who is not, but they all try their best and I know who to take most notice of.

    Wilders is a most invaluable source of information and opportunity for discussion. It is an excellent platform for discussion. I have not found any better on the net.

    John B
     
  18. Narxis

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    No, i just can't trust any security product but i want to use my machine(before someone says pull out my internet cable :D )...

    I never had a problem with KeyScrambler, no bugs and it's not a resource hog.:thumb:
     
  19. John Bull

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    My post 13.

    For some reason after many times popping up on opening FF, this nag panel has gone. Cannot think I did anything to achieve this miracle except threaten it with the big elbow on Wilders.

    Maybe they programmed it to self destruct after a limited number of pop-ups.
    KeyScrambler is working fine, don`t even know it is there.

    John B
     
  20. pajenn

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    I've had KeyScrambler (free version) on my laptop for about a year (estimate). I use Firefox and WinXP (see signature for details). It gives me a little extra piece of mind when web surfing and entering passwords for sites or personal details, PINs, etc. for electronic transactions.

    Observations:

    -I thought it caused a small but noticeable slowdown in browsing when I first started using it. I don't notice that anymore; maybe the newer versions of it are better, or maybe it's because I have much faster internet connection now, or something else... Both Firefox with KeyScrambler and IronPortable without it seem roughly equally fast to me.

    -On rare occasions, login info for websites that I auto-type appears scrambled. I suspect KeyScrambler was the culprit (iirc disabling it helped). It's very rare though and probably only happened when something else was going on that caused the system or internet connection to slow down.

    -On rare occasions it has conflicted with some other software. When I tried the Pale Moon browser (special firefox version), KeeScrambler plugin failed and caused an error message pop-up.

    -As far as I can tell it consumes very little resources. Of course, if it's causing Firefox to use more resources I couldn't tell from regular task managers.

    -If you have a relatively fast computer and a fast internet connection, you probably won't notice any hit in your browsing from KeyScrambler.
     
  21. Warlockz

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    yes this is very good advice for newbies ;) people may want to try other products.

    Spyshelter is free for 32 bit systems, or $31 bucks for a 64 bit/pro version and it does so much more than keyscrambler does.

    Also Comodo Internet Security is free, this is solid when configured properly, and running in Proactive Security Mode.

    The only downfall is they both require user interaction, which can become very confusing to some people.
     
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    I am glad that they (superantispyware) is not whitelisting these anymore. I got into an argument with a guy, a rep for them on their forum some time ago. He was defending it. He got pretty irritated at me.
     
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    Thanks for the tip!
     
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    I think if you press Yes once, it goes away forever.
     
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    I was thinking it almost bullet proof but MRG people calimed that it failed in their keylogger simulatior test. Very interesting but confidence shaking for me.
     
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