I mentioned that I tried ZA Pro 5, much more than a firewall and too many bells and whistles. I got rid of the resource hog. I am still looking for a good firewall that is simply a "firewall" and no popup blocker etc. and all these other goodies that I don't want. In viewing other forums I see Kerio 2.1.5 touted as a good basic firewall. Is there a lot of rule setting as is mentioned with sygate? I am a Novice and learn by research and by reading. I look forward to all replies and experiences, thankyou.