KAV vs. TDS

Discussion in 'Trojan Defence Suite' started by Dardasaba, Jan 27, 2004.

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  1. Dardasaba

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    It seems that TDS can be easily fooled by packing and scrambling an exe, while KAV detects it with ease.

    offensive of topic part removed - paul

    Is there an advantage that TDS has over KAV that i and several reviewers missed?
     
  2. Paul Wilders

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    Dardasaba,

    No offensive talk allowed over here - period.

    "it seems" is a presumption. Please provide facts.

    Please be specific as for those "several reviewers" please.

    regards.

    paul
     
  3. Wayne - DiamondCS

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    Hello there anonymous guest,
    Any trojan can be packed or modified to get past KAV and any other anti-virus or anti-trojan scanner. This is reality.

    The main advantage in TDS is that we specialise in trojans and we've been doing nothing but anti-trojan R&D since the very first remote access trojans were released, so we have thousands that still aren't detected by any other AVs or ATs, including many private samples that have never been made public and many samples that are no longer available anywhere on the web but are still in the collections of many trojan users, who often trade trojans amongst themselves.

    It's all about layered security - TDS isn't a replacement for your anti-virus scanner, it's a supplement that adds detection for many thousands more trojans that your anti-virus scanner won't detect. Likewise, our new Process Guard program adds another layer of anti-trojan protection -as just one example, it can prevent the installation of rootkits.

    Choose your layers at will, it's your computer.
     
  4. Dardasaba

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    Paul:
    "No offensive talk allowed over here"
    I wasn't trying to be offensive, it's just my sarcastic sense of humor.

    ""it seems" is a presumption. Please provide facts."
    I didn't phrase it correctly then, I guess.
    I tested it myself, i'm not pulling it out of my ... err you know what i mean.

    "Please be specific as for those "several reviewers" please."
    Before trying TDS i went through google searching for anti-trojans reviews, Most of them did say that TDS is the best Anti-Trojan. However, those that included Anti-Viruses in the testings determined that KAV detects more trojans than TDS.
    If you choose not to believe me, fair enough. You're welcome to search for yourself. I, however, don't want to waste hours in a search engine just to prove a point.


    Wayne:
    "It's all about layered security - TDS isn't a replacement for your anti-virus scanner, it's a supplement that adds detection for many thousands more trojans that your anti-virus scanner won't detect."
    I am aware of that, but i expected TDS to detect atleast what KAV can if not more, it being specifically designed to target trojans and all.

    "our new Process Guard program adds another layer of anti-trojan protection -as just one example, it can prevent the installation of rootkits."
    Yes, I did try it, it looks nice.
    But it's only a matter of time until it can be bypassed.
     
  5. Wayne - DiamondCS

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    That happened only once before - we just added protection for it.

    It's clear you're not here for any constructive purposes and as you're not registered here I don't wish to waste any more of my time on your silly accusations so we'll just save each other a lot of time and bother and close this thread.

    Anyway, back to work...
     
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