Kaspersky or Avira Antivir?

Discussion in 'other anti-virus software' started by OsmaN, Feb 21, 2007.

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  1. OsmaN

    OsmaN Registered Member

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    Which one do you choose? I'm stuck between of them and i'm confused.
     
  2. cupez80

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    i choose kaspersky over avira.
     
  3. Blackcat

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    Assuming you are talking about the two commercial versions and have tested the two, it will come down to personal choice and it is a difficult one.

    KAV will probably give you better overall malware detection and their forum support is superb. Conversely, Antivir Premium has better heuristics and is the cheaper option. But it will come down to which one will sit the best with your hardware/software mix.
     
  4. EASTER.2010

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    Both are beneficial choices. Right now i find KIS6 Suite exceptional for my system of XP Pro. I did briefly make a run with Anti_Vir and favored it but discovered it was bogging down. Likely due to my HIPS security programs that run resident. Now with Kaspersky6 i don't have any issues at all so was a simple choice for me.
     
  5. btman

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    Definitely Kaspersky.
     
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    Kaspersky!!! For sure.
    More stable, more secure, faster, better firewall

    Best security set up at the moment
     
  7. plantextract

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    i assume you trialed them both and they both worked for you, right?
    if so then use kasperky, else trial and if you have a problem with one of them, then go for the other.
    don't hesitate to ask for help in the user forums (both have them), some issues are minimal and can be solved without effort.
     
  8. EQ2

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    I like Kaspersky better than Avira
     
  9. MalwareDie

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    kaspersky's pdm will give an advantage over avira in terms of detection which you don't see in av-comparatives since theb tests are on-demand tests. I like Avira though, it has very good heuristics and I dont mind the occasional fp's. They are both excellent and I would choose the one that runs better on your system.
     
  10. dawgg

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    Both excelent AVs, but Kaspersky's my choice, stable, great detection, easy to use, nice features and fast updates. Also love the PDM (which is a verry effective layer of protection in addition to the signatures) and great forum support (also choice of official Kaspersky support if the forum cant solve it).

    Avira has better heuristics and detection, but I don't like its GUI and lacks additional features (and a PDM)

    Try them both out and see which you prefer.
     
  11. Mele20

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    I beta tested KIS 2006 for months then I got KAV 2006. I uninstalled it after I saw damage when running chkdsk. I had tried aVira years ago and didn't like it back then. But I decided to try it again this January. I love it. I love the GUI too. Much nicer GUI than KAV's. KAV's GUI is extremely confusing. No way you can be confused by Avira's. It is far more intuitive. I also love the simplicity of Avira. How extremely refreshing to find an AV without a mail scanner which I don't need and didn't see the point in paying for with KAV and then just not installing the module. Part of the problem with KAV is that I was told to just not install modules I didn't want but you are paying for them so why would I want an AV where I paid for stuff I wasn't going to use? So, I prefer an AV that has what I want and no stuff I don't want. Avira is that one. There is no stupid web scanner to cripple your speed. Just a great AV with the best detection of all. Avira is exactly what an AV should be IMO. And the biggest kicker is that it is FREE!!! I suppose eventually I will find something I don't like about it. It does detect some applications I use as malware which was a bit irritating but other than that it works great. No problems with updating. I'm looking forward to March 1 as I think Avira will again be number one at AV Comparatives. :)

    But if you want all the modules KAV offers and are not worried that several months down the road you will discover damage when running chkdsk then get KAV. It has excellent detection and its new heuristics will be a big improvement I'm sure.
     
  12. btman

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    KAV confusing? Your joking right.

    CHKDSK runs fine here. Always has, always will.

    KAV web scanner doesn't slow my internet at a rate I can notice (Cripple is definitely NOT near what KAV web scanner does) and is put in most AV's because a Web Scanner is nearly a need in everyday surfing.

    You seem to like Avira because it's free... When the best thing about an anti-virus is free

    Then that's a problem.
     
  13. TonyW

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    That's an assumption others will have the same troubles as you. Your experience has been unfortunate, but it doesn't follow that others will have the same problem e.g. btman before me.
     
  14. CReal

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    I concur.Not having anything against KAV,on the contrary,but i agree.Who needs all the fancy modules?What i want from the AV is being light,reasonably good and possibly free.And AntiVir satisfies these criteria.Even AVG does.Then with Firefox + no script (i also run AnalogX Script Defender, just in case) and PG Free,the only way malware can infect me,is by shooting me on the foot ,installing it myself.

    The only thing that bothers me just a bit in Avira is the nag screen,but i m kinda used to it now.And if it starts bothering me,there is always AVG around,worse in detection,but even lighter.
     
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    come on now....You must be high on these tasty Hawaiian coctails.

    Another opinion based on "free" instead op the program itself. Take a look at e.g. download.com and see what I mean.


    o_Oo_Oo_O??Never had a problem with chkdsk, neither with Kav 5 nor KAV 6

    nasdrawje
     
  16. trjam

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    The reality is, we are all really splitting hairs between KAS,Nod and Avira when it comes to being well protected. ;)
     
  17. JerryM

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    I agree. It all boils down to which one runs best on the individual computer. The only way to determine that is to try each.

    Best,
    Jerry
     
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    wish I could.......;)

    Reality is that when you are a "normal" pc user you can pick any av tested in AV comparatives and be well protected.

    I go for the best :p
     
  19. bugsy_pal

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    I am still concerned about the chkdsk issue with KAV/KIS - I don't think the concerns have ever been totally put to rest, here or on the Kaspersky forums.

    I am not so concerned about splitting hairs over which has the best detection - I am much more concerned about user interface and effect on system resources and performance.

    I like the KAV/KIS interface. I just wish that the KIS firewall was a bit more intuitive to use. I have been trialling the Avira suite, and it's firewall seems pretty straightforward - my only gripe is that its popups for outbound application connection attempts do not seem to show where the attempted connections are going to - I just get a generic 0.0.0.0 IP address showing.

    I am leaning more towards an AV-only, with a totally separate firewall - unless NOD sets the world on fire with a great interface and firewall in a new product.
     
  20. Mele20

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    No, I like Avira because it is NUMBER ONE in detection and because it has the best GUI I have seen outside of Norton which I left back in 2003. TrendMicro also had (2003) an excellent GUI. I don't know if it still does. The worst GUIs in my experience are NOD32 (I had the paid version for two years) and KAV.

    I'm very happy for you that you have insight into the future that the rest of us don't have so that you can be certain that chkdsk will always run fine and that there will never be any damage to your files from using KAV. Look at what KAV 2005 did...gee, that was a nightmare and it took screaming and yelling to get Kaspersky to release a tool to fix all the damage and then I was the very first person sent the tool and it corrupted my video driver and did the same to anyone running it early on who had nVidia. 2006 is no better if you use ISwift and IChecker and even if you don't, KAV will eventually corrupt files on many computers asevidenced by the Chkdsk problem. KAV is a fine AV IF and only IF you are lucky.

    I would call reducing one's internet speed by TWO THIRDS (from 5ms down to less than 2100 down) "crippling" but if you don't think that is crippling well what would you consider crippling? You are willing to pay for expensive broadband and get about one-third the speed you got before using KAV's web scanner and that is fine with you? Gee...I don't like wasting money but if you do...well....

    A web scanner is never needed uinless you have no brains and are a reckless user who does P2P and visits porn and warez sites constantly. I don't do any of those things and I have a good brain that I prefer to use rather than relying on a web scanner because I am too stupid to use my brain instead.
     
  21. Mele20

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    So far, I haven't minded the ad after updating Avira but if it bothers you there are instructions here how to remove it. I haven't tried this so I can't say how well it works.
    https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=812887

    But how could you want to get rid of those ads? The one I just got is super cool....I mean paraphrasing Queen? Wow!!:D Very creative ad. I have enjoyed all of them (and I generally don't like any ads) except the toilet ad.

    Avira ad:

    "If I had a hammer
    Id hammer all the trojans
    Id hammer all the malware
    All over my PC

    Id hammer out the danger
    Id hammer out a warning
    Id hammer out ...

    You allready have a better solution
    but there is still room for improvement.."
     
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  22. rayoflight

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    I do P2P,I visit porn and warez sites,I use only IE,I'm alive:)But I don't need a web scanner too:)
     
  23. stapp

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    I have avira free and after the first time of seeing this blank "nag" screen, I have never seen it again, although everything updates and works okay. Perhaps I have something that blocks it? I don't know.
     
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    Sorry to hear this.

    -chkdsk problem? I never experienced this on any version of KAV.
    -Not to install modules? I don't need the 'proactive defense' module and didn't installed it.
    -Stupid web scanner that cripple your speed? I don't even notice it's there!
    -Much nicer GUI than KAV? I don't think so... :rolleyes:
    -Avira number one? https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=166321
     
  25. lodore

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    the antivir gui is nice and simple to use but i prefer the kav/kis6.0 gui
    i havent had any of those problems eiether
    lodore
     
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