Kaspersky 7 still has major issues

Oh Right - Zone alarm uses Kaspersky now also. I would imagine it would have affected IOLO also because they used Kaspersky - not sure if they still do or not.

 

ZA 7.0 does not use the iSwift technology only the engine, so that muddies the water if true that ZA is "affected"...

 

Pete,
I think something you may not be realizing is it is not a matter of people running chkdsk that is the problem, it is the OS running chkdsk during restarts. It usually was not selected to be run by the user. That is where the implication that damage to the OS was being done by KAV.

 

no, that IS the "issue". people run chkdsk and it hangs at stage 2 for a long time (verifing indexes)

 

they are both the issue,

kaspersky hangs on stage 2,
kaspersky makes windows run the chkdsk

 

No, as a former user of the product, chkdsk would run on restart automatically, I did not select to run it.

 

yep i can confirm,

i never ever run chkdsk and windows never runs it automatically for me, yet in the 'very short time' i tried kaspersky, it ran quite a few times on reboots, AND it does hang on stage 2.

so both issues = chkdsk problem, that people talk about.

 

Hi chris,
kaspersky hasnt made windows do a chkdisc after i installed kis6.0 MP2
the older builds made windows do a chkdisc about once every few weeks.
lodore

 

I guess I have not understood what has been said. I have never had chkdsk run unless I designated it to do so. I have only had experience with KAV 6 and 7.

Jerry

 

I've used Kaspersky since version 5; it has never ever asked for a chkdsk-reboot.

 

I agree. Anyone who thinks there is a issue with Kaspersky is just crazy. Who is the dumb ass that started this thread any hew.

 

there is an issue, the 2 mentioned above.

i doubt kaspersky will sort it,

to me it seems they would rather compromise my HD-health just to have a quicker scan speed, windows would not need to do these checks on reboot if it wasnt doing something to my HD which my computer does not like.

many people dont get the issue, but to say its not there is just bullshit,

but also, many... like BOTH my laptops, do get the issue.

 

Don, After I removed KISS by restoring an image made before KISS was installed, I installed ZASS trial to see if the problem still happened. It did, at least the delay at stage 2 was still apparent after doing a full scan. I also did the same with AVS and after doing a full scan chkdsk hung at stage 2 just the same. (Talking of a delay around the five minute mark).
Now, if as you say these programmes don't use iSwift then there must be another reason with Kaspersky that is causing the chkdsk stage 2 delay.
After installing both ZASS and AVS and seeing that the problem was still there I recovered using an ATI image, chkdsk then ran correctly without any delay at stage 2.
I don't have the knowledge, or expertise, to trouble shoot the problem, but maybe others that have the problem with KAV or KISS could try out ZASS and AVS to see what results they get?
If I could just get KISS to work on my computer without the stage 2 delay, and was convinced that Kaspersky wasn't causing a potential threat to my files, I would be a very happy camper and would reinstall the software again.

 

Ok Chris, all kidding aside, I hear you. But from a dumb ass viewpoint, I never had ever even ran a chkdsk or whatever the hell it is. So my question is, why and when do you run it..... I am not being rude just trying to understand. And if all this is for real, why hasn't anyone contacted a lawyer for start of a class action lawsuit. You cant tell me that if an abundant number of computers have been screwed, that some New York lawyer wouldn't have run a ad in the paper by now, enticing complainants for a suit involving Kaspersky and Microsoft.

 

If you didn't format your HD, then of course it will still be there according to what some have said.

I have the stage 2 delay and have used 6.0/7.0 through 100 builds (including the beta builds of course) over two years and have never seen anything beyond that stage 2 delay, in my case it is a non issue.

 

There was no need to format. I used an Acronis image file made prior to the installation of Kaspersky to recover from. As far as the hard drive is concerned once the recovery was made using ATI it's as if Kaspersky had never been installed in the first place.

 

Just out of interest, did you see it run and were there logs available after this? I've scanned my disk for chkdsk and only see the executable with no record of the chkdsk.log anywhere. (I assume it creates the .log after it runs.)

 

Chkdsk should create an entry in the windows log, in XP this is viewed using event veiwer available under administratvie tools. It should be in the application section with the title winlogon.

 

Then again, the water is a bit muddied because ZA does not use iSwift....neither does Online Armour to my knowledge, does that also exhibit the same?

 

Isn't Chkdsk that ancient DOS command to scan the hard drive for defects? I just ran it from the DOS command prompt and it indicated that some kind of orphan file was recovered and some kind of bitmap attribute had to be fixed. I stopped using it since the Windows 3.11/DOS 6.2 days. But that would be odd for a AV to invoke an internal drive scan operation since that should an OS function ONLY.

 

Just for the fun of it, I just restarted Windows XP, 10.30pm UK time. No visible signs of chkdsk running here, no chkdsk.log either, and not even an entry for winlogon. In fact, the last entry for that on my machine was May 22, and that was because "the shell stopped unexpectedly and Explore.exe restarted".

Screenshot of part of current Application section:

 

As it has been said, the majority of people don't have the issue.

 

Can't answer for Online Armour. As for ZASS using iSwift I gave my views to you in my previous message.

What I find strange is the absence of a Kaspersky spokesperson in this, and the other forum debates (apart from you that is ) I would have thought that by this stage someone from Kaspersky would be in repair mode.