JAVA - update?

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  1. SG1

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    For 1st time - suddenly could not update Java other day; tried 4-5 times. Error msg. was about alleged service running even tho' terminated - not the case, as app did uninstall old ver., and Add/Remove Programs list no Java versions whatsoever as being present. But, now, still get same msg. and seems I can't install it, at all. Ideas?

    Thanks, SG1 (Pat)
     
  2. LenC

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    Delete your temporary files - internet and system - then try again. That solution has worked for me many times with inexplicable issues such as yours.

    Let us know what happens.
     
  3. nanana1

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    Google for Javara to completely remove your previous versions and reinstall.;)
     
  4. SG1

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    Will try your info shortly, see if it works yet. Thanks, guys.

    SG1 (Pat)
     
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    It seemed that I too is having some issues with Java. Each time after being upgraded, java's program folder grows bigger than before. I have to remove the folder with previous version number manually. I thought it works this way. But according to the OP's description. It seems that his Java can uninstall the previous versions automatically. Why not mine, any idea?
     
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    Some random thoughts...

    I've found JavaRa to be of little use/help. It certainly did not clean up all Java pieces when I tried it earlier this year. Maybe the latest version is better in this regard?

    Java JRE from Version 6 Update 10 or 11 and higher (I can't remember the initial build @ the moment) had/has the ability to remove Java JRE Version 6 Update 10 or 11 or higher. Any versions below are still orphaned and must be uninstalled manually.

    I never allow Java to update itself. I always download the full manual installer and run it directly from the PC. I'm definitely not saying this is the only way to do it. But I look after 3 or 4 dozen PCs and have never had an installation issue following manual only updates.
     
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    Run Windows Installer Clean Up and delete all JAVA residues, then install the last JAVA version.
    This will work for sure.:)
     
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    I tried uninstalling and was stopped with a "cannot find" type error message, I tried the usual cleanup procedures ans still no go .

    I tried CCleaner to uninstall and still the same error message.

    Finally I ran MBAM and finally it allowed the download to be upgraded. I was infected with Trojans and deleted them.

    Now I can go away for the weekend and keep the grand kids happy with all my apps updated.
     
  9. Mister_Al

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    I always remove my old java versions with Revo Uninstaller before I install the latest version and I don't have any problems with my installation.

    Alan
     
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    I was told recently that v.16 of Java was available; it is if you know where to look, but java.com still reports v.15 as being the latest. I have v.15 and when I try to update through the Java Control Panel, it tells me I have the latest.

    I wish Sun would improve their updating methodology; v.16 is on the sun.com site, but not ported through to java.com.
     
  11. Mister_Al

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    Found mine at FileHippo.

    http://www.filehippo.com/


    Alan
     
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    I know he has, and if users didn't know where to look before, they do now so many thanks to Roddy. :)

    I knew of the location within the sun.com website where one can obtain v.16 before I saw his post.

    That isn't my point though. A lot of users won't know of the sun.com download area, and will automatically go to java.com or use the updater in the Java Control Panel.

    The really funny thing I find is if you go to http://www.sun.com and click on the Java icon on the left-hand side then hit Download, it takes you to http://www.java.com/en/download, which currently displays v.15.

    The two should be in synch unless there's a reason why they haven't updated the java.com site with the newer version. I just attempted to download from java.com, and got the message:
     
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    DSL touched on the differences. According to what I've read, sixteen doesn't cover any security issue not addressed by fifteen.
     
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    thanks, no wonder, it happens that way.
     
  17. SG1

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    Yeah, turned out not all older Java was uninstalled by the newer ver. which supposedly occurs, as I understood it. Made sure all was gone, installed newer ver. just fine, then.

    Thanks, SG1 (Pat)
     
  18. TonyW

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    It's ok really, no worries. :)

    I was merely pointing out some users may get confused when being told a newer version is available, but using methods as I described does not push that newer version. Using update notifiers like SUMo for example tells users of the newer version available from sun.com, but as I explained the main page link on there takes you to java.com which in turn pushes v.15.

    As it happens, I now have v.16 myself. :)
     
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