Java SE 8

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  1. NICK ADSL UK

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    Java v7 will not automatically update to this new v8? I just tried the internal updater and it said your system is already up-to-date.
     
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    For those who may have known but forgot, or did not know, no version of Java 8 will be compatible with Microsoft Windows XP in any form.

    Since Microsoft's support for XP is ending soon, Oracle's XP support for Java 7 may also dwindle and simply not exist in Java 8. :'(

    HTH
     
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    Got the same for Win 7.
     
  5. Raza0007

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    Actually v8 of Java installs side by side with v7. I installed v8 and then uninstalled v7 manually. I think they are not automatically updating it as there might be some incompatibility with some Java programs that have not been updated to be compatible with v8 as yet.
     
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    Not saying you're wrong. But MajorGeeks says Win 8 / Win 7 / Vista / XP.
     
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    Hello,

    For JDK 8 and JRE 8, XP is not listed as supported on the Oracle Java site here: -http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/certconfig-2095354.html
     
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    If one has an XP SP3 system with no versions of Java whatsoever, as if you did a very thorough uninstall of JRE 7 et al, a subsequent attempt to install JRE 8 will be met immediately with a RegDeleteKeyExA entry point error in ADVAPI32.dll.

    You may Google the error result and eventually find some stirrings from within Oracle, last year, that since Microsoft was discontinuing their XP customer support, Oracle was not going to support a product that Microsoft would not either.

    So, it is not altogether clear if the public will see any Java 7 updates passed build 1.7.0_51-b13 (7u51). I suppose this could be construed as more pressure to retire our beloved XP builds.

    FWIW
     
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    So, should I uninstall what I have now (7 51) and install Java SE 8 on Win 7?
     
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    Thank Nick for the heads up.

    My main concern isn't the new features or enhancement because I don't use Java for development purposes, I use only applets to run some applications. I am rather concerned about Java security, last year Java filled headlines quite often with its security flaws. So is this version 8 much better secured and less vulnerable than its predecessor?
     
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    On my way Nick :D

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    I'm seeing issues with v8 not working or crashing on Win 7 x64 & Win 8.1 x64 with all browsers IE11, FF 28 and the latest Chrome even on there own test site. http://java.com/en/download/installed.jsp can anyone else confirm? And I'm not the only one as others have reported.

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    I think I'll wait before I do anything drastic then.;)
     
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    You can install both side by side.
     
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    It is working fine for me here on FF 28, Win 7 32 bit and Java SE v8. Although when I went to the link, I had to activate Java, I think FF has it disabled by default.
     
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    OK thanks, I'll see what's happening first.
     
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    You guys are kidding me right? Y'all still using Java? :)

    My bank required Java to be installed for streaming stock quotes, so I switched from bank. :D
     
  19. anon

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    from when Java 7 came out, it usually takes a few releases of the new version before it becomes the "recommended" version. I imagine they'll want to ensure it's stable before letting the whole planet upgrade to it.

    http://www.neowin.net/news/java-runtime-environment-8
     
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    Considering the amount of security holes in Java I'm surprised that many still install it.

    I haven't installed it on about 3 years & never will again due to the amount of exploits & holes in it.

    I know some speedtest sites & banks still require it but as Rasheed187 said why not just change banks :)
     
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    ... some games too.
    i.e. :
    Minecraft is a sandbox construction game, written in Java by Mojang, where you can build anything you can imagine. The game is available on Minecraft.net
    http://www.java.com/en/download/faq/minecraft.xml
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    Java - Desktop use
    According to Oracle, the Java Runtime Environment is found on over 850 million PCs
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_(software_platform)
     
  23. Yash Khan

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    Why it is not available in official Java site?
    When I check on java.com it still mention ver 7 as the recommended.
     
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    And besides bad security, it has always been slow to me. Apps that are written in Java are slow to load and quite heavy, same goes for java applets.

    Java is dead to me. I also hate Silverlight, Windows Media and Quicktime. :)
     
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    Answered just 4 post above (#19)......
     
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