is there any new Separated on-demand test for F-Secure ?

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  2. IBK

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    no. at least not from av-comparatives.
     
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    please ibk can you give us Separated on-demand test for F-Secure ?
    because many people use this AV
     
  4. Firecat

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    As such, F-Secure uses KAV engine, so the detection rate will be similar to KAV at the very minimum. F-Secure has two in-house engines too, so I think the result will be slightly better than KAV.
     
  5. Don Pelotas

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    Actually the few test's i have seen with twinengined AV's with the Kav engine (including F-Secure) showed them to have slightly less detection :eek:..........weird. :)
     
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    It has more or less the same detection rate. Does it make any difference if it does detect e.g. 5-10 samples more or less than KAV in a test-set of e.g. 500.000 samples? Probably not :p
    Anyway it is possible that in future also f-secure will be tested...
     
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    And GDATA's AVK?
     
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    As somebody from Kav already said here KAV original is the best while ll other packages lack a bit because KAV is not crazy to make them same effective as original....
     
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    @blackcat: everything could be possible, but i have to discuss with the av companies before i am going to take decisions. and of course i have to look if they want, if i can, if they fulfill various conditions, etc.
    we will see...
     
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    I guess its because F-Secure does not have the hourly updates that KAV enjoys, which allows KAV to have better detection in most tests. :)
     
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    I don't think so. In my mind if KAV is better than F-secure in some test, it's better mainly because there are some Adware/Riskware samples within that test as F-secure doesn't have any Extended databases in their av to choose.

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    F-Secure does have Ad-Aware database integrated into their AV.....
     
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    Which is not integrated to the F-secure scanning report. F-secure's Ad-Aware reports by itself.

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    I guess that explains it. :)
     
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    When you want to know the detecting rate of F-secure as a total, you have to scan all those samples with F-secure first, remove those infected/suspicious (if not FP:s) ones and finally scan those rest with F-secure Ad-Aware. This result is that what we can compare to KAV scanning result with extended database enabled.

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    one possible explanation is that AFAIK f-secure hasnt got the latest kav engine
     
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    Yes, and who knows what they have done with it, in terms of the modefications they have made to it etc.
     
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    Firefighter

    I think you are wrong here, because they add their own signatures in addition to the ones they get from Kaspersky. :)
     
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    In some place, you can't see difference between Kav pro 4.5.0.104 and Kav pro 5.0. The engines are different. Then which engine is used by F-secure?
    Sincerly,
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    Maybe I have to clear up my opinion a bit more. I didn't mean that F-secure has the same detection rate as KAV with extended database. When I trialed ShawSecure (the same as FIS 2005), I had to scan my samples with F-secure Ad-Aware too, to get the best possible scanning results with that ShawSecure, where was that add module within.

    Actually I believe that F-secure has even a bit better detection rate among viruses and worms than KAV, because of those 3 engines (or was it now 4 engines?), but KAV may have a bit better detection rate among trojan like nasties, because of a bit better unpacking capabilies than F-secure has and a bit quicker updates together with extended databases too.

    PS. Despite of a bit different detection rates of F-secure and KAV, it has only an academical importance, because the second best scanning engines than KAV, concerning detection rates, are far below of those two F-secure/KAV, than there is difference between those two.

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    i havent used f-secure since 2004 beta, but i believe it has still kav 4.xx engine.
     
  23. Technodrome

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    F-secure uses KAV 6.xx engine.



    tECHNODROME
     
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    How you know that? The KAV 6.xx engine is still a while off being finished.
     
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    I believe it was posted earlier. Maybe F-Secure uses some pre-release version of the KAV 6.x engine. :doubt:
     
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