I did a search and found many threads but no concrete answer. First let me say I think the shieldsUp test is a great tool and use and recommend others use it just to be sure their security is doing its job. Now the main reason for my post. I frequent MSI HQ forums and the server admin there claims ShieldsUp and Steve Gibson are a joke. Now I never claimed to be a expert on anything but I'm no dummy either. From my point of view this guy is giving out bad information. Now I know I could just stop going there but I worry about my fellow man. Maybe I'm all wet and this guy is a god? Could someone in the know check out 2 threads on the MSI HQ forums and let me know if he is nuts or not? his name is BAS, I'd guess it stands for Big ahole. http://forum.msi.com.tw/index.php?topic=113161.0 http://forum.msi.com.tw/index.php?topic=114384.0 Thanks for your time.