Inside China’s Dystopian Dreams: A.I., Shame and Lots of Cameras

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  1. hawki

    hawki Registered Member

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    "...With millions of cameras and billions of lines of code, China is building a high-tech authoritarian future. Beijing is embracing technologies like facial recognition and artificial intelligence to identify and track 1.4 billion people. It wants to assemble a vast and unprecedented national surveillance system, with crucial help from its thriving technology industry...

    In some cities, cameras scan train stations for China’s most wanted. Billboard-size displays show the faces of jaywalkers and list the names of people who can’t pay their debts. Facial recognition scanners guard the entrances to housing complexes. Already, China has an estimated 200 million surveillance cameras — four times as many as the United States....

    '“The goal is algorithmic governance,'...

    China has become the world’s biggest market for security and surveillance technology, with analysts estimating the country will have almost 300 million cameras installed by 2020. Chinese buyers will snap up more than three-quarters of all servers designed to scan video footage for faces,...

    Government contracts are fueling research and development into technologies that track faces, clothing and even a person’s gait..."

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/08/business/china-surveillance-technology.html

    Long, Scary Read
     
  2. Stefan Froberg

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    Good lord! :eek:
    They actually have facial recognition software called "Skynet" o_O
     
  3. mirimir

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    Indeed:
    Someone has a sense of humor, I guess. Or maybe they just see it differently. As in, the eye in the sky is your friend :)
     
  4. Stefan Froberg

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    Yea...
    I just really really hope that all that madness (massive facial scanning, AI powered sunglasses and behaviour scores attached to citizens) does not spread beyond china borders...
     
  5. mirimir

    mirimir Registered Member

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    Well, I'm not optimistic about that. The justifications will be different, of course.
     
  6. hawki

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    "Chinese 'gait recognition' tech IDs people by how they walk

    Chinese authorities have begun deploying a new surveillance tool: "gait recognition" software that uses people's body shapes and how they walk to identify them, even when their faces are hidden from cameras.

    Already used by police on the streets of Beijing and Shanghai, "gait recognition" is part of a push across China to develop artificial-intelligence and data-driven surveillance that is raising concern about how far the technology will go..."

    https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/chinese-gait-recognition-tech-ids-people-walk-58988215
     
  7. Krusty

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    https://www.wilderssecurity.com/thr...ards-to-control-everyone.408377/#post-2791675
     
  8. mood

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    Facial recognition system accuses woman in bus ad of jaywalking
    November 23, 2018
    https://www.theinquirer.net/inquire...n-system-accuses-woman-in-bus-ad-of-jaywalker
     
  9. mirimir

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    Wow. But at least, they didn't kill her ;)

    And all news, in the end, is arguably advertising. I mean, now I know about Gree Electric Appliances! I do need a new coffee grinder. And maybe they're on Amazon. So hey :)
     
  10. deBoetie

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    The case of Dong Mingzhu noted above, while relatively trivial in terms of outcome in that case, is a potent refutation of "if you've got nothing to hide you've got nothing to fear". The reality is that with mass surveillance, naive AI algorithms which auto-determine "guilt", and lack of symmetry in terms of risks and costs (LE do not bear the costs of false positives but benefit from empire building of having the systems and Keeping Us Safe), whether you like it or not, you are vulnerable to these false positives and are therefore prudent and reasonable to take steps to avoid being identified by mass surveillance.

    Outcomes may be far more severe, ranging from being on watch lists, no-fly lists, and likely, no-employment lists, as well as false criminalisation. Scary stuff with no effective redress.
     
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