Inside China’s Dystopian Dreams: A.I., Shame and Lots of Cameras

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  1. hawki

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    "...With millions of cameras and billions of lines of code, China is building a high-tech authoritarian future. Beijing is embracing technologies like facial recognition and artificial intelligence to identify and track 1.4 billion people. It wants to assemble a vast and unprecedented national surveillance system, with crucial help from its thriving technology industry...

    In some cities, cameras scan train stations for China’s most wanted. Billboard-size displays show the faces of jaywalkers and list the names of people who can’t pay their debts. Facial recognition scanners guard the entrances to housing complexes. Already, China has an estimated 200 million surveillance cameras — four times as many as the United States....

    '“The goal is algorithmic governance,'...

    China has become the world’s biggest market for security and surveillance technology, with analysts estimating the country will have almost 300 million cameras installed by 2020. Chinese buyers will snap up more than three-quarters of all servers designed to scan video footage for faces,...

    Government contracts are fueling research and development into technologies that track faces, clothing and even a person’s gait..."

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/08/business/china-surveillance-technology.html

    Long, Scary Read
     
  2. Stefan Froberg

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    Good lord! :eek:
    They actually have facial recognition software called "Skynet" o_O
     
  3. mirimir

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    Indeed:
    Someone has a sense of humor, I guess. Or maybe they just see it differently. As in, the eye in the sky is your friend :)
     
  4. Stefan Froberg

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    Yea...
    I just really really hope that all that madness (massive facial scanning, AI powered sunglasses and behaviour scores attached to citizens) does not spread beyond china borders...
     
  5. mirimir

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    Well, I'm not optimistic about that. The justifications will be different, of course.
     
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    "Chinese 'gait recognition' tech IDs people by how they walk

    Chinese authorities have begun deploying a new surveillance tool: "gait recognition" software that uses people's body shapes and how they walk to identify them, even when their faces are hidden from cameras.

    Already used by police on the streets of Beijing and Shanghai, "gait recognition" is part of a push across China to develop artificial-intelligence and data-driven surveillance that is raising concern about how far the technology will go..."

    https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/chinese-gait-recognition-tech-ids-people-walk-58988215
     
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    https://www.wilderssecurity.com/thr...ards-to-control-everyone.408377/#post-2791675
     
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    Facial recognition system accuses woman in bus ad of jaywalking
    November 23, 2018
    https://www.theinquirer.net/inquire...n-system-accuses-woman-in-bus-ad-of-jaywalker
     
  9. mirimir

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    Wow. But at least, they didn't kill her ;)

    And all news, in the end, is arguably advertising. I mean, now I know about Gree Electric Appliances! I do need a new coffee grinder. And maybe they're on Amazon. So hey :)
     
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    The case of Dong Mingzhu noted above, while relatively trivial in terms of outcome in that case, is a potent refutation of "if you've got nothing to hide you've got nothing to fear". The reality is that with mass surveillance, naive AI algorithms which auto-determine "guilt", and lack of symmetry in terms of risks and costs (LE do not bear the costs of false positives but benefit from empire building of having the systems and Keeping Us Safe), whether you like it or not, you are vulnerable to these false positives and are therefore prudent and reasonable to take steps to avoid being identified by mass surveillance.

    Outcomes may be far more severe, ranging from being on watch lists, no-fly lists, and likely, no-employment lists, as well as false criminalisation. Scary stuff with no effective redress.
     
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  12. Stefan Froberg

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    Damn....I can see even some license plates .... :eek:
     
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    "Chinese schools monitor students activities, targeting truancy with 'intelligent uniforms'...

    If students wear the uniforms, the school authorities receive recorded accurate timing of their entry and exit and automatically send the data to parents and teachers, said Lin Zongwu, principal of No. 11 School of Renhuai in Guizhou Province...

    Through the help of the facial recognition equipment installed on the doors of schools, if students swap their uniforms, the alarm also rings.

    Two chips are inserted in the shoulders of uniforms and can endure up to 150 C and 500 washes, Yuan Bichang, the company's project manager, told the Global Times...

    ...an automatic voice alarm activates if students wearing intelligent uniforms walk out of school without permission..."

    http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1132856.shtml
     
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    Deep Learning ‘Godfather’ Bengio Worries About China's Use of AI
    February 2, 2019
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...es-about-china-s-use-of-ai?srnd=technology-vp
     
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    Exposed Chinese database shows depth of surveillance state
    https://techxplore.com/news/2019-02-exposed-chinese-database-depth-surveillance.html
     
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    The Companies Behind China's High-Tech Surveillance State
    February 21, 2019
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...gh-tech-surveillance-state?srnd=technology-vp
     
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    Latest version of gait-recognition technology rolls out in China
    Limping won't fool it
    February 26, 2019

    https://www.techspot.com/news/78928-latest-version-gait-recognition-technology-rolls-out-china.html
     
  18. Stefan Froberg

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    Facial recognition in China shames jaywalking child, erupting debate
    Facial recognition is commonplace in China, but concerns remain about children’s privacy
    May 28, 2019

    https://www.abacusnews.com/digital-...walking-child-erupting-debate/article/3012131
     
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    Chinese Propaganda Goes Tech-savvy to Reach a New Generation
    https://www.nextgov.com/it-moderniz...-goes-tech-savvy-reach-new-generation/159111/
     
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    Very disturbing and reminiscent of Brave New World. We (in the west) had better take this seriously and not go down this road.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brave_New_World
     
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    "A Chinese propaganda app gives the government full access to 100 million users’ phone data

    BEIJING — The Chinese Communist Party appears to have “superuser” access to all the data on more than 100 million cellphones, owing to a back door in a propaganda app that the government has been promoting aggressively this year.

    An examination of the code in the app shows it enables authorities to retrieve every message and photo from a user’s phone, browse their contacts and Internet history, and activate an audio recorder inside the device, according to a U.S.-funded analysis..."

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...53bbae-eb4d-11e9-bafb-da248f8d5734_story.html
     
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    Shanghai apartment buildings are secretly installing facial-recognition devices
    October 18, 2019
    https://qz.com/1729799/shanghai-apartment-buildings-secretly-install-facial-recognition/
     
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