i need a boot manager

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  1. mantra

    mantra Registered Member

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    Hi

    i'm looking for a boot manager

    i have on one hardisk xp sata
    on a different hard disk w7 sata

    and i have a ide hardisk

    i would like to install a bootmanager on the ide hardisk and set the bios to boot from the ide

    and have the ability to select which os should start xp or w7
    EasyBCD did a mess:thumbd:
    thanks
     
  2. whitedragon551

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    The only one I can recommend is EasyBCD. Its the easiest one to use out of the ones Ive tried.
     
  3. mantra

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    but it should be installed on windows 7 or vistao_O
     
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    None of them will just rewrite over it unless you tell them to. I expect thats what you did with EasyBCD.
     
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    I use grub4dos. Boots about anything, in a straight forward fashion. Nothing pretty here, just a menu. Bootland has many articles on it. As does msfn. I use it on hdds and optical media.

    Sul.
     
  13. routerguy99

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    I like system commander V-com its old but it works with Vista/Win7
     
  14. mantra

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    may i install on a floppy or in a fat32 hard disk
     
  15. DOSawaits

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    Another vote For BiNG (BootIt Next Generation) here.
    Using it for many many years, never had any problem.
    It's also clever, a simple recovery disk boot is all what's necessary after adding another OS. It will revive itself automatically.

    Wonderful software.
     
  16. mack_guy911

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    hello i guess you get confused they dont write to your mbr until you want it to i mean if you install it on default mode all you need is give the path

    for example you get windows 7 and then window xp

    then from window 7 you need to tell the location of window xp or vice versa

    now what you are trying is 2 hard-disk with 2 mbr and dont want to mess with eachother right if one fails other will boot auto

    now what happen is from bios it check for 1st disk and its mbr(disk1) for bootloader then it searches for 2nd disk(disk2) and its mbr for bootloader

    now all you need to do is use easy way easybcd or any other easy tool and give the path of your second disk it wont mess with your mbr of any disk untill you rewrite it from easybcd
    please read this

    http://vlaurie.com/computers2/Articles/bootini.htm

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTLDR

    http://mirror.href.com/thestarman/asm/mbr/bootini.htm

    You can not use BOOT.INI with these operating systems! Vista and Windows™ 7 require the use of a new boot manager ("bootmgr") and other associated files in order to boot

    now one more thing you can do is make your window 7 disk 1st and xp disk 2nd from bios install easy bcd on window 7 then make xp to boot 1st aka default system....... if you like .........but from bios it search window 7 bootloader 1st

    why we do this is because backward compatibility is always there in parent-child

    if you need to install 98>nt>2000>me>xp>vista>window7 you need to do in that order.........

    booting order higher to lower recommended always if parent go child with start to play

    now if your window 7 crashed it will take xp mbr and start booting 99%...... 1%if not you can add in bios to xp to disk 1 and get it

    from window 7 all are recognized but from xp you cannot boot vista or window 7 without help of 3rd party tool

    i wont say vise versa wont work but this is always recommended (installation lower to higher and booting order higher to lower) and its mostly trouble free



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5szrahD4-v0
     
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  17. MrBrian

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    Or you could instead not use the Microsoft bootmanager.
     
  18. routerguy99

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    you can use floppy if you want, I installed installed in in a FAT16 Win98 100 meg boot partition,, my previous machine was running FAT32 WinMe Dos boot drive.
     
  19. MrBrian

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    My impressions of XOSL so far:

    Pros:
    • free
    • has many features and is very flexible in handling diverse multibooting scenarios
    • XOSL installer/uninstaller is available on Ultimate Boot CD for DOS

    Cons:
    • installer overwrites disk signature bytes in MBR with 0s; changing disk signature on disks containing Vista or Win 7 will result in unbootable system; unbootable system can be remedied beforehand by using MBRtool (available on Ultimate Boot CD for DOS) to restore volume bytes (aka disk signature) from a saved copy of MBR; unbootable system can be remedied after the fact by using bcdedit commands as described at http://social.technet.microsoft.com...p/thread/cb6175b0-e031-4f81-b8b6-2c845e627cf9
    • USB mouse will not work (but you can still use keyboard)
    • partition sizes are sometimes misreported, probably due to today's much larger partition sizes that didn't exist when XOSL was released
    • partition labels are sometimes not reported

    I will use XOSL as my boot manager :).
     
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