Hi gre87y I remember you! Not to worry I'm sure Fax will continue posting. In my view, Stems,and Faxes the OP had been 'hijacked' or "diverted OT", what ever words fit. They have agreed to take those OT issues elsewhere. I for one appreciate that! Perhaps a new thread for those issues will be created? You could do that! This thread had gone OT, IMHO. It happens. it gets fixed and we all move on. My thread is not a debating thread it is a learning thread with me as the "learner". I was buried and lost in OT posts and losing heart till Stem helped us out. If anybody has a fact/experienced based contribution to make on this learning thread go ahead and make it! I would read it for sure! I then wait for Stem as that is his role in this thread. But a never ending debate, no thanks, not in this thread. We have moved now to Program Control, what are your own learnings to share on my recent posted questions to Stem?