How to clean up redundant partitions on system drive?

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  1. paulderdash

    paulderdash Registered Member

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    Following this: https://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/macrium-reflect.356309/page-230#post-2713341 (and subsequent posts #5759 /61 /65 and /73 in that thread) and @Brian K's request: https://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/macrium-reflect.356309/page-231#post-2713753

    After the FCU update (also before), I have redundant partitions on my C: SSD system disk, as reflected in attached Disk Management and diskpart screen shots.

    Can you give (this mere mortal) detailed step-by-step instructions on how to delete a) the redundant last partition (#5759), or possibly b) to go the 'full monty' and remove all necessary partitions and optimise the the disk space (#5773)?

    I think I need trial BIBM?

    Edit: Mods, please move this thread if it's in the wrong place.
     

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  2. Brian K

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    This should probably be in "other software and services"

    Paul,

    I'll get you to download the Trial BIBM and make a boot disk. Make a UFD or CD. Let me know when it's ready.

    http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/downloads-bootit-bare-metal.htm


    unzip
    double click makedisk.exe, next
    dot in BootIt Bare Metal, next
    dot in I accept the agreement, next
    dot in Image for DOS (GUI), next
    dot in Mouse Support Enabled, next
    dot in VESA Video, next
    dot in Video Mode 1024*768 - 64K Colors, next
    dot in Partition Work (Don't put a dot in Normal), next
    don't choose any Device Options, next
    tick in Enable USB 1.1 (UHCI), next
    tick in Align partitions on 1MiB Boundaries, next
    in Additional bootitbm.ini Options (type or copy/paste) ISO8601=1 , next
    select your UFD drive letter (otherwise go to CD instructions)
    for USB Layout select "Partition - MBR FAT/FAT32 Partition"
    for Geometry Calculation Method select "Default - Use Device"
    Finish

    For a CD...
    in Additional bootitbm.ini Options (type or copy/paste) ISO8601=1 , next
    select your CD burner drive letter (you can use a CD-RW or a CD-R disc)
    Finish
     
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    BootIt Bare Metal bootable UFD successful.

    The mods will have to move this thread to "other software and services"?
     
  4. Brian K

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    That was fast. I assume you have a Disk Image in case of problems.

    To boot BIBM the UEFI BIOS needs to be in MBR mode. So change Secure Boot from UEFI to Other (or Legacy). Change Compatibility Support Mode (CSM) from Disabled to Enabled.

    Boot BIBM. (you might see 2 entries for the UFD. Choose the one without UEFI prefix)
    you see a Setup window, Welcome to setup. Click Cancel
    click OK on the Notice
    this is the BIBM desktop with 5 icons on the left and 4 icons on the right
    click Partition Work
    Bus will be BIOS (leave this alone)
    Drives: will be "0 - BIOS HD (USB) (size of UFD)"
    click the drop down arrow for Drives: and choose "1 - BIOS HD (SATA) (size)" as this is your internal HD that needs attention. You will see the partitions in a vertical pattern. Free Space is called "Partition", weird.

    Select the 11.92 GB partition (it will be in MiB), click Delete (in the Action area on the right)
    don't select Clear or Wipe but click Yes

    Select the 809 MB partition
    Click Slide in the Action area
    Sweep the Free Space After numbers and type 0 (zero)
    click in the Free Space Before field to update it. It should show around 11.92 GB
    leave the tick in Data Only and click OK, Continue, Close

    The 809 MB partition should be at the end of the drive with 11.92 GB of Free Space below the Windows partition

    Select the Windows partition
    click Resize
    OK
    In the New Size field type in the Max Size number
    OK, Continue, Close

    It should be done. Change the UEFI BIOS back to Secure Boot and CSM disabled. Let me know all is OK. More to come.

    Edit ... Before exiting BIBM select the first partition, the 1000 MB one
    click Delete
    don't select Clear or Wipe but click Yes
     
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  5. Brian K

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    TeraByte has a UEFI version of BIBM Partition Work but there is no free trial.
     
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    I seem to now boot to a panel with Boot Menu and App Menu tabs
    with Windows Boot Manager and
    ATA HDD0: Samsung .... drive but can't get further.

    Same after image restore.

    How do I proceed?
     
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    That sounds like the BIOS Boot Menu. Clicking Windows Boot Manager takes you to Win10. Can't you see a USB option in that menu?

    Bed time for me I'm afraid. In my computer F8 gives me the Boot Menu but it can be Esc, F2, F12, etc in other computers.
     
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    Clicking Windows Boot Manager does nothing.
     
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    Hope I don't have a brick :'(
     
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    Brian, after some heart-stopping moments :eek:, I managed to get into the BIOS after F1 booting from a Win 10 ISO.

    I went back to UEFI and it booted, so that seems to have been the problem.

    But although I restored an image immediately prior to the BIBM exercise, and all seemingly went OK during the BIBM exercise, Disk Management / diskpart now looks worse than before!

    Because switching to Legacy caused problems for me, maybe I should buy the UEFI version BIBM / Terabyte backup bundle (was considering latter anyway) and try again?
     

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    Paul, you now have two 809 MB REs. We need to know which one is functional so run...

    reagentc /info

    Is the one in use Partition 5 or 6?

    No problem. We'll get it fixed.
     
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    In my test computer I tried different UEFI BIOS settings.

    BIBM worked with CSM Enabled and Secure Boot Legacy/Other OS
    BIBM worked with CSM Enabled and Secure Boot UEFI

    The first is "correct" but if the second works, fine.

    In both cases there were 2 entries for the UFD. You must choose the non UEFI one.

    If I used CSM Disabled and Secure Boot Legacy/Other OS or
    CSM Disabled and Secure Boot UEFI
    I couldn't boot BIBM.
    CSM must be Enabled to boot BIBM.
     
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    Not yet. It is new and many computers won't have mouse support. You can run BIBM from the keyboard but it is not as easy as using a mouse.
     
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    Hi Brian

    I used the following as per your instructions: Secure Boot from UEFI to Other (or Legacy). Change Compatibility Support Mode (CSM) from Disabled to Enabled.

    When I booted BIBM, I didn't see the setup window, but went straight to another panel, but seemingly went straight to the partition panel.

    I then (I think) executed all your instructions correctly, including your 'Edit' paragraph.

    In order to 'Change the UEFI BIOS back to Secure Boot and CSM disabled.' I had to exit BIBM and reboot.

    Thats when my problems occurred.

    Btw I have a bluetooth mouse on this laptop, so mouse support does not work anyway.

    reagentc /info shows the attached - no 5 or 6?

    I was thinking of running the pre- partition work restore again, just to see if I can get back where I was (I would be happy with that ;) ) but I will await your reply.
     

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    RE is in Partition 6. Standby. See my PM.
     
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    I went through this exercise a little while ago. Interesting to see the problem still exists.
    The thread below may come in handy.

    Two Recovery Partitions
     
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  17. mantra

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    hi Brian
    very nice
    i would like to know the same steps to create an image for linux or windows , settings
     
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    Yeah something strange here. The MR incremental was taken before the partition work, and on restore doesn't seem to replace the original partition configuration.

    But restoring a slightly earlier differential seems to have put me back where I was.
     
  19. Brian K

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    mantra, for IFL I use...

    Making an IFL boot disk...
    double click makedisk.exe, next
    Traditional- You have control over options. (Custom), next
    dot in I accept the agreement, next
    no ticks in the two ini, next (this screen might not be present)
    Global Geometry----tick in Align Partitions on 1MiB Boundaries, next
    Miscellaneous Global Options, no selections, next
    Additional ifl.ini Options, no additions at present (I use TimeZone=AUS-10), next
    Product Key if V2, Name and Product Key if V3, next
    Leave Boot Drive Mounted as /tbu/boot, next
    Normal Boot, next
    or Run List-Run Scripts Listed in scriptslist.txt
    or Select at Boot-Show Menu of Scripts Available
    BIBM Licensed Name, Product Key (leave blank if you don't own BIBM)
    For additional options I use TimeZone=AUS-10;GlobalGeoAlign2K=1;ISO8601=1 but you can leave it blank
    select your CD burner drive letter (you can use a CD-RW or a CD-R disc). Or USB flash drive. Or ISO File.
    If using a UFD I choose
    USB Layout... Partition - FAT/FAT32 partition
    Geometry Calculation Method... Use Device
    Finish
     
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