How many made the move to Win 10 ?

Discussion in 'other software & services' started by pratzert, Nov 19, 2016.

  1. Peter2150

    Peter2150 Global Moderator

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    Hi Panagiotis

    I also imaged 7 installed 10 and restored 7. I play with my win 10 image frequently, but there is a bottom line. It brings more headaches and I don't see I've gained anything.
     
  2. TairikuOkami

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    10 was a disaster, when it was launched, especially because they are slowly moving everything to the new shell, but it has got a lot better now. Windows Updates no longer need Windows Firewall running (still DHCP service though), but the are also very unreliable compared to any previous Windows. :doubt:

    Indeed, it took me a year to tame the beast, but I am somewhat satisfied. I have even found out, how to disable auto-checking for updates and auto-reboot.
     
  3. Osaban

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    It's good info to spread around, I have 2 computers on Win 10 and I wish I could upgrade my Vista machine as well... As much as I like Win 10 I'm not prepared to buy it. No matter what people say about Win 7, Win 10 is the future if you want to stay with Windows, and I can assure you the state of the art of technology is always the latest OS...
     
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    W10 disaster too, i stick with Windows 7, i agree that is start super fast, nice interface, speed and more than W7, but it's too intrusive, read the EULA, this is against privacy and liberty. (even the LTSB or the fatest of the fatest Windows server 2016).

    my two cents

    Rules.
     
  5. pratzert

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    The machine I am putting the new HD in, already had the digital entitlement for Win10. But since I am changing the hardware, I don't know if it still valid. But I have read that if you have a legitimate license to 7 or 8, that all you need to do is install Win10 and use the old license and it will accept it and authenticate the OS.
     
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  6. Krusty

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    A new drive won't matter, I have done the exact same thing and also added new RAM. I new motherboard will though.
     
  7. Kerodo

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    I have changed hard drives also, and neither 7 nor 10 complained about it. Should be ok.
     
  8. Brian K

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    Not since the end of July. You have to use the method I described.
     
  9. pratzert

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    Good to know.... Thanks @!
     
  10. pratzert

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    Thanks, sounds like I can go right to Win10 without any other manipulations.
     
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    If the digital entitlement is still valid, I should be OK. But if Win10 complains, I'll use your method, or just go back to Win 7 Ultimate.

    Thanks.
     
  12. pratzert

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    It seems to be a mix of opinions on Win10, some like it, and some don't.

    I know Win10 IS the future, but I am in the club of suspecting that Win10 borked my HD, but it may have just been a coincidence.

    So I am torn between moving up or not.

    Maybe the best solution for me, is to load Win 7 Ultimate and just wait a little longer for MS to work out more bugs in Win 10.

    Other than wanting to become familiar with the newest OS, there isn't anything I am in desperate need of in Win 10.

    Win 7 is tried and true, and after the computer problems I've been thru lately, the last thing I want is more headaches.

    Thank to all for your input, comments and suggestions.

    Regards.
     
  13. ArchiveX

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    Windows 10 x64, here.
     
  14. MisterB

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    After playing around with it the first year, I'm not using Windows 10 at all. Too many issue with lack of control and privacy on the top. The killer is the forced "upgrades" vs the updates. The updates I can live with and control by a variety of methods. The "upgrade" to a new release every 6 months or so is a complete reinstall of the OS that wipes out a lot of customizations and comes with around a 4gb download. That is too much time and bandwidth for me to give to MS every 6 months. It is not appropriate at all for a productivity machine which I define as any computer that generates income for me. Some of us just want the OS to lay quietly in the background and not bother us at all. Windows 10 is downright obnoxious and is constantly interrupting the work flow with updates and messages. Yes, these annoyances can be tamed and controlled to some extent but the "upgrades" tend to reset a lot of the tweaks and I'd rather not waste my time tweaking an OS constantly when I can use one that just works and doesn't demand that kind of attention.
     
  15. Osaban

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    I agree with your points, but most of the problems were associated with the upgrades from Win 7/8 and the anniversary update. I hope that as the OS matures there won't be so many disrupting upgrades in the future. I have it on 2 machines and it is absolutely flawless.
     
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    Very well said and I couldn't agree more! :thumb:
     
  17. Kerodo

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    Yes, I have to agree with most of this too, this has been my dominant impression after using and playing with 10 since it first came out and all the way up to the present with the AU etc. Too much going on, too much nonsense, and the upgrade twice a year routine will not work out well. I continue to play with 10 and experiment (I have images of it), but I don't feel comfortable using it on a daily basis. I stick with 7 for daily needs.
     
  18. Brian K

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    Win10 has been flawless for us. The updates run smoothly in the background and upgrades aren't a problem. I download the upgrade ISO the day it is released (it's then used on all our computers) and an upgrade install takes 15 minutes. I can't recall any settings being changed.
     
  19. Krusty

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    Hi Brian,

    I've had privacy settings changed and apps reinstalled.

    Didn't I read that Microsoft were going to change how updates would be installed and they wouldn't be full OS installs any more?

    Edit: Isn't that what this means?

    https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2016/11/03/introducing-unified-update-platform-uup/
     
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    - Most interruptions can be solved via unchecking the boxes in Settings or in the apps.
    - Privacy "matters" can be fixed in 1mn with O&O Shutup10 (i can see in there you can even block updates).

    There is no real reasons (except hardware issues) to flee from Win10. Security, stability and responsiveness is higher than in any previous version. Never had any BSODs unlike with Win7

    Im using it since the release, tweaked it since day one, now it runs flawlessly without interrupting me at all, or giving me any major annoyances that i cant solve in a minute.
    You can easily mimic Win7 "feels" by doing some little works on the start menu (uninstalling Metro Apps, customizing the settings, etc...).
     
  21. Brian K

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    Brian, I wasn't suggesting they were doing away with ISOs, just that updates / upgrades would be handled differently.

    Have a read of my link above.
     
  23. mantra

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    hi
    why don't you install both on the same disk?
    may I ask you a question about windows 8.1 with classic sheel ?
    do you think it's faster and more secure then w7?
    thanks
     
  24. pandlouk

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    Hi Pete,

    I only load the win10 images every 6 months to check what has changed with each flavor... for everything else that has to do with 10 eg. supporting family, friends and customers I use a VM with windows 10.And thankfully it happens rarely...
    The only good thing with the forced upgrades every six months is that it clears the infections too and from this point of view Windows 10 is the most secure misrosoft OS ever... if they went with an upgrade cycle of 1 month it would be even more secure!!! :p:D

    Panagiotis
     
  25. Peter2150

    Peter2150 Global Moderator

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    HI Panagiotis and Mantra

    First the issue of security. I don't depend on Windows for security, so that Win 10 may be more secure then win 7 doesn't matter to me. I look at the holes closed by windows update and I am protected from them. Heck the last 3 years I ran XP, I stopped doing windows updates. Never had a problem. I do look at win 10 more frequently, but it is mostly to help developers by looking at issues with win 10.

    2nd Mantra, I don't like dual boot and having two different systems. It would more than double the disk space used and I don't want that.

    3rd As to Win 8 and 8.1, never have really run them so I don't know.

    Pete
     
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