How do you feel about NSA spying and backdoors ??

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How do you feel about the NSA spying and backdoors?

  1. It's needed, as is, to effectively fight crime and terrorism.

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  2. It's needed, but needs streamlined to protect privacy of law abiding people.

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    36.0%
  3. The entire NSA needs dismantled and not replaced.

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    36.0%
  4. Other - please state your opinion.

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  1. acr1965

    acr1965 Registered Member

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    How do you feel about the revelations that the NSA spies worldwide, including using backdoors on smartphones, routers, computers, etc
     
  2. blacknight

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    other: Sure IT intelligence and surveillance need, who can deny it ? That becomes anti-democratic, arbitrary, dangerous, against individual rights is the routine, global and systematic monitoring that NSA and other services made.
     
  3. Janus

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    Hey..

    I don't like the thought, that surveillance has become more instances lately, but at the same time I recognize that it is somehow needed, or with other words I have very mixed feelings in that regard. What concerns me is, that the intens surveillance can start another kind of cold cyber surveillance war. And as a astro physics nerd as I am, I can't help thinking of Newton's third law , and it can be used on human behavior : For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

    Regards Janus :))
     
  4. aztony

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    The world is a dangerous place with lots of dangerous people. That being said, all governments world-wide have an obligation to protect their citizens from harm. But does it mean trampling in the privacy of law-abiding citizens to the extent that it has been revealed concerning NSA? What's troubling to me, is the power and scope of that entity, with little, if any oversight, or accountability to anyone. We've probably all seen evidence of how power corrupts, and I can't help but think of the old adage, absolute power corrupts absolutely.
     
  5. Kerodo

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    It doesn't really matter how you feel about it, they're doing it, it's a fact of life that has to be adapted to...
     
  6. Bob D

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    I find myself agreeing with most of the comments above.
    FWIW, I'm not overly concerned. They're not listening to my calls, reading my emails (although they could with court order).
    And were they to do so, I think they would be sorely disappointed.
    NSA'a monitoring role was fairly well explained in the '60 Minutes' segment.

    As an aside: Guy in town apparently was DLing kiddie porn. Police came in like the Gestapo, booked him & confiscated all home computers. NSA had nothing to do with it.
    Other entities are monitoring / watching for heinous activities.
     
  7. Page42

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    My belief is that most of us have resigned ourselves to this sort of thing either through complacency or apathy, or a genuine sense of helplessness. We then say things like, "Well, I don't have anything to hide anyway".
    I view it as very unsettling, and believe it portends a darker, more desperate future for mankind. I wish I could put a positive spin on it, but that's not happening. Think slow train coming.
    There are alternatives, or recourses, but to many, they are largely unthinkable.
     
  8. Dave0291

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    That 60 Minutes spot was a gigantic PR move spewing the same repeated excuses and half truth/half lies that the government keeps using. Even normally pro-Administration media powerhouses didn't buy it and haven't been buying anything else since then. Complacency is the biggest issue and always has been in America, but the lack of good, easy to use tools to fight it is another. Even if they are used, no one is quite sure if these agencies are already able to compromise them.
     
  9. Page42

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    Agree that complacency is a big issue.
    Disagree with "and always has been in America".
     
  10. ronjor

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    This topic exceeds the purpose of this forum. Any political opinions should be discussed on a political forum.
     
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