Help with x64 IE9 for W7!

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  1. ratchet

    ratchet Registered Member

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    Although I rarely use IE, I do occasionally go there (e.g. my ISP telephone features GUI won't render correctly in Ff/Cf) and it is always in slow motion. I consistently test at around 17mbs (pay for 15) yet you'd think I was still on dial up. I've disabled any kind of security addon too. It doesn't matter if sandboxed or not. IE Tab + doesn't work with Cf but when called in Ff, IE pages render instantly without issue. No page renders instantly in IE which makes it stranger. I un-installed it and reinstalled it but nothing changed! There has to be some fundamental problem here. Thank you!
     
  2. Wild Hunter

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    First, take note that IE 9 x64 is considerably slower than IE 9 x86.

    Source: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ieinternals/archive/2009/05/29/q-a-64-bit-internet-explorer.aspx

    This performance difference doesn't apply to IE 10 x64 vs IE 10 x86. However, the final version of IE 10 x86/x64 for Windows 7 is still to be released.

    To troubleshoot IE performance in general, check this article and follow the steps:

    - http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/...-explorer/slow-five-tips-to-boost-performance

    You may also want to try this tool (the option Repair Internet Explorer must be checked / the other options are also safe to check):

    - http://www.tweaking.com/content/page/windows_repair_all_in_one.html
     
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  3. Daveski17

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    I very rarely use IE, but I have to disagree with this. In my experience the x64 IE 9 is (or seems to me) faster than the x86. It's no secret that I am not a huge fan of Internet Explorer but the x64 IE 9 is one of the fastest browsers I've ever used. In fact, I don't see any noticeable difference between it & Opera x64. Of course; mileage may vary.
     
  4. Wild Hunter

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    This isn't really a matter of disagree/agree.

    If IE 9 x64 feels faster for you, it is because of slow x86 addons that don't load with IE 9 x64 and/or some corruption and/or some combination of custom settings slowing your IE 9 x86.

    The browser IE 9 x64, by itself, is slower than the browser IE 9 x86 - because it has no JIT script compiler.

    ..."In IE9 there's one other major difference between the 32bit and 64bit versions of IE. IE9 includes a new script interpreter which is much faster than the script interpreter in IE8. However, 32bit IE9 also includes a Just In Time (JIT) script compiler which converts script into machine code before running it. There is no JIT compiler for 64bit IE. So, for benchmarks like SunSpider (and script-heavy sites) 32bit IE9 runs script up to 4 times as fast as 64bit IE9 (which itself runs script around 5x as fast as IE8 ). So, you could end up paying a significant speed penalty when using 64bit IE9 vs using the default 32bit version."...

    Source: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ieinternals/archive/2009/05/29/q-a-64-bit-internet-explorer.aspx
     
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    I disagree.

    I have no add-ons & have no custom settings.

    There is no discernible difference between Opera x64 & IE 9 x64 on my system. Although, to be honest I don't think that there is much difference between x86 or 64.
     
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    You may need to run timers and benchmarks and post the results - that would be actually something to be "analyzed".

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Browser_speed_test

    From my part, you can keep disagreeing, I don't care. The technical differences are too clear to hold any viable debate on this matter.
     
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    I'm just saying what I am seeing.

    Well, it certainly seems like a viable debate to me. I am seeing IE 9 & Opera x64 as being as fast as each other. Why would I make this up? o_O
     
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    Try the IE10 pre-release for Windows 7.
     
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    I was talking about vanilla IE 9 x86 vs vanilla IE 9 x64.
     
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    OK, but both x64 Opera & IE 9 seem zippier than their x86 eqivalents to me, on my system. Why would I lie about this? o_O
     
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    I think it's best to wait until they've actually finished it to be honest. ;)
     
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    I'm not saying that your statements are false.

    All I'm saying is that Microsoft acknowledges that under "normal conditions" IE 9 x86 should be faster than IE 9 x64 because IE 9 x64 lacks JIT script compiler.

    And that it would be nice to see more details about what is happening in your machine that produces such supposed contradictory results (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Browser_speed_test).
     
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    I'm just saying what I am seeing. It could all be in my imagination, ontologically speaking, for all I know.
     
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    Could it have anything to do with java disabled (in both browsers)?
    This is the pathetic difference!
     
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    What test was that?
     
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    The first one in this search. Runs when you open the link, that is why I didn't directly link it! It is called speed-battle.com
    Also, that was with Cfox sandboxed, IE not!
     
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    I reset IE default options as is suggested at MS help and dang if it isn't crisp. Still doesn't score high but no issues and as I stated seems very, very fast!
     
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    Been running it since it was released---zero problems, but I see ratchet has solved his problem the usual way you fix IE.
     
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    I hardly use IE. I'm in no hurry to upgrade. I doubt it will have any real advantages over IE 9 anyway.
     
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    The other interesting thing about this issue is the fact that, since I rarely ever use it, I'd never, ever tweaked it. Apparently it just corrupted on its own!
     
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