help us! to discover our own thesis problem

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  1. cyberterrorist08

    cyberterrorist08 Registered Member

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    hi, everyone i am new in this site! I would like to have your hand in finding some articles with regards to our thesis proposal.. Our topic is all about protecting data files from illegal copying using any external devices..


    :)

    anybody wants to help?


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  2. Rmus

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    It seems to me that even if you could protect a file from being copied or printed (pdf for example), as soon as the text of the file displays on a screen, it can be captured as a image -- starting with the built in Windows Print Screen utility.
     
  3. Peter2150

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    Why just external drives.

    Also how original does your thesis have to be. There are routine softwares discussed here that do what you are talking about for example Sandboxie. Truecrypt, while it won't protect from copying makes the copy worthless.

    You might want to spend some time here just reading some threads that might relate.

    In any event your best friend would be google.

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  4. Rmus

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    Even reading a file in Sandboxie - can't someone use the Print Screen to make a copy?

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  5. Peter2150

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    Wouldn't they have to be sitting at the computer. In that case it would take encryption or some kind of password access to the files.
     
  6. Rmus

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    OK, I'm missing what the OP is asking.

    I thought the problem was when people were viewing someone else's document, say, on a network,
    how to prevent them from copying/printing it - the way you can protect a .pdf file.
     
  7. Peter2150

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    I don't know. He says he's doing a thesis. Seems like google would serve him well.

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  8. MitchE323

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    Seems simple enough.....
    Pete offers Google and I stand behind that recco 110% :rolleyes:
     
  9. Peter2150

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    I am beginning to wonder if OP is going to come back. Time will tell.
     
  10. HURST

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    Maybe tomorrow.
    :rolleyes:
     
  11. ErikAlbert

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    I can copy anything, but only for myself.
    I can copy my original Windows Installation CD, MS Office CD, drivers CD's, ... to another blanko CD.
    I copy my data every day to an external harddisk.

    Is the purpose of your thesis to make all this more difficult for me in the future ? I hope not. Everybody copies anything to anywhere nowadays, including sending data as email-attachments to everybody world-wide.

    You might do something about copying malware, that would be very usefull.
     
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  12. cyberterrorist08

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    :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: thank you for the help! The argument which I posted is just a broad topic for the research.. I have the specific one here! but I cant post it directly to this forums!... Sorry If I have some worries!...") It seems I dont trust you there!..Im very sorry for that!

    As of this time I really need a hand if you want to help we can discussed it in yahoo messenger or person.com, or any online chat!... or else you can direct it to my email add!.. I promise I will read all those things you may sent..

    heres my add.. crusier [underscore] 882000[at] hotmail [dot] com

    If you have friendster account! invite me using that email add

    thanks a lot!!!


    cyberterrorist:cool: :cool: :cool:
     
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  13. cyberterrorist08

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    Thanks for your help!..I will appreciate it much...

    hope you can help. by the way! before anything else am gregory from philippines.

    From where are you? Tell me about yours..


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  14. HURST

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    gregory, you might want to edit your message and change your email to:

    crusier_greg882000 [at] hotmail [dot] com

    to prevent some bot from harvesting it...

    Good luck with your thesis (I'm finishing mine in a few weeks)
     
  15. cyberterrorist08

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    thanks for the reminder!.. I will change it..

    what's your thesis is all about? am just starting, maybe this coming monday will be having our title hiring with our dean, then this time we are stock on the related literature that can support our argument, at this point we have nothing! hope you can help!

    If I cant distrub you, will you send an email to me in reagrds with any literature about file security.

    nice to know your almost done. From where are you?

    cyberterrorist08
     
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    Thanks for the hand! I really appreciate it. by the way I'm gregory from philippines. Hope we can have another way to communicate. Here's my email address! please send a message..


    crusier [underscore] greg882000 [at] hotmail [dot] com.


    cyberterrorsit08:cool: :cool: :cool:
     
  17. cyberterrorist08

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    hehehe! Im not making your job difficult! This is just for the study.. Dont be worry anymore!

    If we can successfully do it, I promise I will give to you the secrets keys.. joke!

    thank for your time..

    looking forward for your help...
     
  18. cyberterrorist08

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    I'm back! hope you can help..:cool: :cool: :cool: I you want to help lets talk in private! or just email me...


    crusier [underscore]greg882000 [at] hotmail [dot] com

    looking forward for the help...
     
  19. cyberterrorist08

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    thanks for the response! We are not dealing with that prospective. Hope you can send email to me..


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  20. HURST

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    Sorry I can't help, my thesis has nothing to do with that subject.
    Maybe in a few days I can find the time to see if I can find some references that could be usefull to you.
     
  21. cyberterrorist08

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    hello. anybody there!
     
  22. cyberterrorist08

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    Hello... who is online there?

    hope somebody joined with me in discussing some issues!..

    cyberterrorist08
     
  23. Mrkvonic

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    Hello,

    1. Define illegal copying.
    2. When you say external devices - do you mean copy to external devices - or use an external device to protect against copying ...?

    Mrk
     
  24. cyberterrorist08

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    We want to protect our data. The external devices can copy files directly if we don't apply any restriction to it. you know some of literature that helps me to be guided..


    Illegal copying means - stealing your data, or copying someones document without any authorization.

    cyberterrorist08
     
  25. thanatos_theos

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    Hello cyberterrorist08. You cannot copy files from a computer to an external device if the device has no means of connecting to the PC. So remove your floppy drives, cd drives, usb sockets...

    Everything is distributed today by the means of copying. You put your work in a floppy and bring it home, send your work to someone thru e-mail, give a copy of your software to download sites, etc. Preventing us to copy data from computers would make us resort to jotting/redoing the process (eg: download again) which is a tedious, time-consuming work. If we copy something from the PC, it doesn't mean we will plagiarize it. Most software, contents (media, documents) today have encrypted digital signatures, trademarks, watermarks, etc that protect them from alteration/modification.

    Anyway, good luck with your thesis.

    thanatos
     
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