Having big problems imaging windows 10 to a larger disk

Discussion in 'backup, imaging & disk mgmt' started by Louiscar, Jun 28, 2020.

  1. Brian K

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    We are just in the process of opening our state borders (few weeks time) and I have a fishing trip booked for September in Queensland. Victoria is the only state out of control at present. Due to shonky quarantine practices.

    Australia is lucky as we didn't have lots of International Arrivals before we closed our borders. Only 103 deaths to date.
     
  2. Louiscar

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    hmm, When bootit boots and you have : BOOT | MAINTENANCE | DIRECT BOOT
    Boot = inaccessible boot device
    Direct boot (choosing SRP-2a) = Recovery screen with the F8 option that just doesn't go anywhere.

    I wonder if paths have got screwed up - recovery option is obviously not finding winre.wim or whatever it should be running at that point
     
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    I don't use Direct Boot and as far as I can gather it's like booting from the BIOS boot menu. It's always confused me.
     
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    I'll let you know TeraByte's opinion tomorrow.
     
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    Good on ya mate :)
    Good to see that some governments handled it in a timely fashion. We are somewhere between America and some parts of EU that started talking "Herd theory" ... idiots. Problem with all the figures being given out is they can't be right eg. the Ratio in Uk of all deaths to cases is 15% !! Yes 15% of people if we are to believe the figures are dying from Covid19.
    In my area it is 30%!! It can't be true and basically it's because they aren't doing the testing and the testing they are doing does not correlate with those that died from Covid.

    Anyway don't get me started ... :) Whilst we are off topic Brian you have spent so much time on this and regardless of the outcome I'd really like to sling you a few beers at least. If you care to give me via pm a way to send you something it would make me feel better. Paypal ?

    I will have to stop fairly soon for today as now I am out of food and have to go stand in a very long line at the supermarket then sleep. I will crack on for bit though
     
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    Ok that might be a good place to leave this then . can you just tell me how to uninstall BIBM gracefully from the SSD as I'll stick the nvme back in - I'm guessing it's not just a case of removing the BIBM partition?
     
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    Buy me a beer when you are next in Australia or vice versa. This has been "fun". I hope we get an answer.
     
  8. Brian K

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    I'm not in front of a computer but there is an uninstall button. I mentioned it earlier in the thread.
     
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    Plenty of family there but I've never been and would love to actually.
     
  10. Brian K

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    I live in a town of about ten thousand. There are plenty of similar sized towns within 30 minutes drive. We love travelling outback to towns with less than 50 people. Last year I drove 750 km in a day and only saw one car.
     
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    All that amazing space and the outback yeah!

    I seem to have had some success.
    First step is probably irrelevant but I did the following:

    From BIBM I restored SRP-2a
    As I had to put the nvme in for the backup image I forgot to take it out which resulted in a recovery where it ended up offering a repair and that old thing of which boot are we booting from and yes it ended up presenting me with 3 options and only one worked which was the nvme. So I took it out again. Bad move on my part :(

    Now it gives me the usual but a little search of "total identified Windows installatons :0"
    which bothered me from my original method gave me this routine .. specifically after running
    Code:
    bootrec /rebuildbcd
    So ... Booting from windows recovery cmd prompt:

    Code:
    bcdedit /export c:\bcdbackup
    attrib c:\boot\bcd -h -r -s
    ren c:\boot\bcd bcd.old
    
    Now this doesn't boot but the important thing is I can get into a recovery and when choosing "start up settings" > 4 enable safe mode (As I found before)
    gets me into safe mode and all I need to do is exit from that and restart. Successful boot.

    So I'm going to hang my hat up for the day and then carry out some tests tomorrow (or later after a good kip) and if I can establish that this is a reliable method of kicking Windows 10 into running then I'd be happy with that at least. I'd want to do it several ways and know that the end result is always the same

    With your greater knowledge would you happen to know what Windows does in Safe mode that could be responsible for fixing the issue. I have a feeling there's a BIG clue in this somehow.
     
  12. Brian K

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    TeraByte said it's a driver issue. When going from NVMe to SSD you don't have the correct AHCI/SATA drivers. These can be installed into the non booting system with the OSD Tool Script.

    So immediately after restoring the image in IFL, click OSDTool (third icon at the top). Your trial IFL doesn't have it.

    Physical drive
    select OS
    confirm screen
    Install drivers
    Install default IDE and AHCI drivers
    Enter
    Go back
    Exit

    For SSD to NVMe you would choose
    Install default NVM Express Contoller
    (instead of Install default IDE and AHCI drivers)

    https://www.terabyteunlimited.com/kb/article.php?id=453 is of interest. TeraByte said a bad file system can cause it too, so chkdsk /f it.

    When you buy the TeraByte Special Bundle check the exchange rate of the three sellers. They are quite different.

    Your TeraByte login for downloads will be...

    https://www.terabyteunlimited.com/product-download.php

    Upgrade History...

    https://www.terabyteunlimited.com/upgradehist-bootit-bare-metal.htm
     
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  13. Brian K

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    A hint for doing an IFL restore. On the Select screen choose Normal and not Automatic. If you choose Automatic you won't see the Options screen.
     
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    Brian, I've been meaning to ask about this when doing an IFW restore.
    I usually choose Automatic as it defaults to that. It always works. What is the difference?
     
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    Hadron, the only difference is you don't see the Options screen. If you know you don't need to add Options then Automatic is fine.
     
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    OK, Brian.
    I wonder what the options are.
    I'll have to have a look sometime.
     
  17. Brian K

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    I forgot to mention this Option...

    Write Changed Sectors Only

    You should always select it with a SSD/NVMe restore. It's no faster but it only restores changed sectors. So instead of restoring 50 GB of data, you might only restore a few hundred MB. Less writing to the SSD is good.

    Some older SSDs don't support DRAT so Write Changed Sectors Only might not be present.
     
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    In most cases the defaults are fine. "Write Changed Sectors Only" isn't a default but you can make it so.
     
  19. Hadron

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    That's handy to know. I wonder if Reflect and Snapshot have that option.
    I just looked for that in IFW to select it and make it a default, but I cannot see it.

    Edit: Hang on. That'll be in TBWinRE/PE settings.
     
  20. Brian K

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    Options is the second last screen of an IFW restore. IFD, IFL and IFU as well.

    If you have it as a default in ifw.ini then it will transfer to TBWinRE.

    [RESTORE_DEFAULTS]
    WriteChangedSecsOnly=1
     
  21. Hadron

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    Ah, the setting is not in the GUI.
    Thanks.
     
  22. Brian K

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    Yes, it's in the GUI too. Second last screen. Options.
     
  23. Hadron

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    Do you mean in the manual restore screen?
     
  24. Brian K

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    Not sure what you mean. When you choose Automatic you don't see the Options screen.
     
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    To my knowledge, SNAPSHOT no. Reflect, ever since v6 (2015) has always used their RDR (Rapid Delta Restore) feature (changed disk clusters only) during restorations. It only abandons that when the image on the disk is a different image totally that the one in the image being restored.
     
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