Hackers - Crackers

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  1. Jimbob1989

    Jimbob1989 Registered Member

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    Does anyone know exactly why crackers and hackers became practically the same in the eyes of most. Because, the true definition of a hacker is actually someone who explores computer systems and networks, often for vulnerabilities and ways of increasing protections. So, most of wilders could call themself hackers.

    Where as crackers are people who try to gain unauthorised access to a computer system....

    Why did the two become practically one word?

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  2. Cochise

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    I wouldn't go so far as to say that the people at Wilders could be remotely considered as Hackers.....

    But I can well understand the reasons for some people being considered as Crackers......


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  3. Jimbob1989

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    Not in todays corrupted definition.

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  4. Cochise

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    Where's Big Buck and big ed when I need them??................ :D



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  5. beetlejuice

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    I like to crumble my crackers in my soup. :D
     
  6. bigc73542

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    I make no distinction between crackers and hackers because both use illegal means to gain access to anothers property. Two fish in the same barrel in my mind.

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  7. Bubba

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    In the beginning....the hackers of the Arpanet era help build what we know today as the WWW ....but thru time....it has evolved into hackers and crackers are the same.
     
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    In the early days of the Internet and Networking, "Hackers" Were people who explored the systems and networks for vulnerabilities and weaknesses. The Definition of a hacker is someone who has indepth knowledge of the inner workings of a system or network. Crackers were people set to "Crack the code" Of getting into a system otherwise protected. The media got wind of a few security breaches in early networks and coined the phrase "The system got hacked by an intruder". That is how hackers got the be in the same category as crackers.
     
  9. Jimbob1989

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    I was reading up on this last night. Apparently the media is largely to blame for the loss of distinction between hackers and crackers.

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  10. bigbuck

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    Sorry! I was at work!

    [QUOTE='chise] I wouldn't go so far as to say that the people at Wilders could be remotely considered as Hackers.....

    But I can well understand the reasons for some people being considered as Crackers......

    [/QUOTE] :D :D Nice One! :D :D
     
  11. CartoonBoy

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    Well when CartoonBoy was little, he was in a car with CartoonDad. He pointed at some men on a large green paddock with flags on it. They were hitting eggs with sticks. CartoonDad then said " HACKERS "

    He got home that day and he opened up the pantry and saw a box with writing he was to young to understandand. He pointed at it, and CartoonMum said " CRACKERS "


    That's all I know.

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  12. big ed

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    Hey Chise,

    I've been down in my La-bora-tory trying to concoct a way for JB to make some dinero on the Internet. It came to me in a flash. All he has to do is to send all of the threads that he started to Jay Leno or Dave Letterman. It would be nice to see the kid's name up in lights, which reminds me of another thread about filaments and dehags.

    Play on, big ed
     
  13. nadirah

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    It should be: Who stuck their toungue..........in a socket?
     
  14. bigbuck

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    ?? ??
     
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    I did that once with my Atari, I plugged it in, turned the power on and instead of jacking to the console, I jacked it to my tongue
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    Not recomended !
     
  16. big ed

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    Hey big buck,

    I'll second the ??. It's kinda like asking "how tall is the tallest Mt"? Answer= Monopoly. Don't knock it though because its fuel for further interesting posts. Besides, you have to remember, our IQ's added together is still far less than some of our learned youngsters.

    Play on, big ed
     
  17. Jimbob1989

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    Ok, I'm a little confused. I will come out of the thread then back in again and see if it makes any more sense.

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    Well, since you've already done that, how about you connect that plug into your two nostrils and try to play? :p haha..kidding of course
     
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    O No no no. Them days are over, besides I have no nostrils. They burnt out when I did that trick.
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  20. Firecat

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    Damn that's too bad!
     
  21. lynchknot

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    I thought: hackers want to get into yiour computer and steal information - and crackers crack app protections and make keygens, etc.
     
  22. Firecat

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    Both ways.. effect is the same...hackers target individuals and crackers target corporates (cracking their app).
     
  23. lynchknot

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    except crackers don't plant sub7 trojan (whatever it is) and use your computer as part of an army to DDOS (or whatever they do with it).
     
  24. hayc59

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    Hacker:
    The dictionary defines "hacker" as a slang term describing a person who carries out or manages something successful. A hacker is someone who spends many hours with the computer often successfully operating it by trial and error without first referring to the manual. A hacker is often a technical person in the computer field, such as assembly language programmer or systems programmer. Today the term hacker has taken on a negative meaning. The news media has often used the term hacker in a derogatory manner to refer to people that use their technical knowledge to gain unauthorized access and perform mischievous or destructive activity in computer systems and data banks.
    Cracker:
    An individual who attempts to gain unauthorised access to a computer system. These individuals are often malicious and have many means at their disposal for breaking into a system. Crackers often like to describe themselves as hackers. Cracking does not usually involve some mysterious leap of hackerly brilliance but rather persistence and repetition of a handful of fairly well-known tricks that exploit common weaknesses in the security of target systems
     
  25. Firecat

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    Well, actually I've seen lots of cracks which come with Trojan infected files...
     
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