I have been using CyberScrub 5 and I've even put up with pain of electing Gutmann (35 passes) secure delete. Recently I ran a couple recovery programs in order to congradulate myself on having a "clean' HDD. Well...You'd be surprised what the cat brought home. Cyberscrub is B/S. So many files. Yiiiiiiiiiiiii. So now I'm gonna believe what I read b4. The only safe way to erase data is to insert the HDD into the local river, hard-wired to a brick.