Government Set Up A Fake Facebook Page In This Woman’s Name

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  1. lotuseclat79

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    Hard not to swear some colourful language, this is just wrong on all levels.
     
  3. Countryboy15

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    Hmm, this is a toughie. The digital age has provided LEA with a lot of easier methods to conduct stings and such. I guess it could be said they violated her rights to some extent, but is it that much different from the way police used to infiltrate crime organizations? They impersonated people back then too. She was a part of the ring after all, small part or not. If she was a contact for someone, and she suddenly stops communicating, well, the others may spook and there goes your case. Using photos of her kids, I do not much care for that one. But to me she is fair game, and I do not see the need to ask her permission.

    However, the big problem is that they could easily do something like that for anyone, whether they have real suspicions or not. I do not really know about this one. It leans more towards "legit" for me, but there is always that risk. Facebook's response and policy do not really matter here. For if they want to get upset about that, they would need to shut down more than likely 50% of the user base they claim for being fake.
     
  4. mirimir

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    Well, anyone who uses Facebook for such blatantly illegal purposes (the people who contacted "her") is asking for it.
     
  5. Countryboy15

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    I just wonder if people like this somehow think Facebook protects them, do they? There is an awful lot of showing off and confessions of criminal acts in that place.
     
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    Read this on BBC before seeing this thread. Apparently the US government has violated Facebook's ToS.
     
  7. mirimir

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    Very funny :) It could hard ban them. But they'd just use Tor ;)
     
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    No really, they have. Facebook disallows the users to create profile pages of other individuals without explicit permissions of the individuals who are being referenced to.
     
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    @GrafZeppelin

    I'm not disagreeing with you. But Facebook doesn't enforce that rule very effectively. And anyway, if the adversary has your mobile device, they are you as Facebook knows.
     
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    That doesn't mean however that the young woman who had her identity stolen and embarrassed publicly within her community when her private photos were uploaded doesn't have a potential case to explore against FB for allowing this to not only remain, but persist against their own TOS...
     
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    Maybe. But smart DAs would exclude that as part of plea agreements, no? Or at least, moving forward.
     
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    the criminal potential here is not good, or at least going to be a serious uphill climb. What I am thinking here is more of a civil strategy that could lead to more in time if successful.
     
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    A simple question comes to mind: if she cooperated with the cops, gave them access to her phone and consenting to the use of that information, was it so hard for the cops to actually ask her consent for that Facebook page (for investigative purposes)? Given her situation, I bet that she would've agreed...
     
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    Good news then its about time the Governments especially in the five eyes gets sued lets hope they get criminal convictions also, its long overdue really I still believe anyone would does something which is negative to the other person deserves it!
     
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    So is the DEA now banned from Facebook?
     
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    Then end justifies the means.

    What could possibly go wrong with that?

    No-one expects the NSA inquisition.
     
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    Cops Need to Obey Facebook’s Rules | Electronic Frontier Foundation
     
  21. mirimir

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    OK, then Facebook should ban all FBI accounts, right? Including its main public account. It's only fair, right?
     
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    I agree with what the EFF are saying, but it'll be a very cold day in hell before any law enforcement would care what a "website's" rules are. And it'll take massive media hype to get people aware enough for them to just better learn to hide their tactics.

    What needs to change is people stop using the Facebook.
     
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    Stop using Facebook and only another one will pop up. Simply more education is needed, and a lot more regulation of officials.

    Some people thinks you lose all rights after committing this level of crime, I say they're the ones in the wrong and malicious.
     
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    Fake Facebook account case settled with DEA who admits no wrongdoing
    https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/20...se-settled-with-dea-who-admits-no-wrongdoing/

     
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    John: Has any government's body ever admitted that they are wrong?
    Richard: No, never.
    John: Why?
    Richard: Because everyone thinks they own the laws.
     
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