GoBack - conflicts? Opinons?

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  1. Caratacus

    Caratacus Registered Member

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    I often see GoBack mentioned in posts here and I am thinking of using it.

    Does anyone know if it would possibly have problems with any of these progs I have installed (on a 2.6 P4 Titan 875P FSB 800 Dual channel DDR400 running XP Pro)?

    NPF, NOD32, WormGuard, Process Guard, SSM, Steganos Security (with encrypted virtual drives), Executive Diskeeper Pro (set to Set & Forget), TDS3, RegRun Gold.

    Do you know of problems between GoBack & any other progs?

    If anyone has opinions on any aspect of GoBack I'd like to read them before I take the plunge.
     
  2. bigc73542

    bigc73542 Retired Moderator

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    I have used Go back on 98se and me and it worked very well I never had any software problems. When I got xp my version of go back would not work so I have not tried it on xp. My son does use it on xp pro and he has no problems with it. :)
     
  3. Acadia

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    I have GoBack and I love it, it is my favorite software. But I have an older, simpler pc. I might be concerned about the encrypted virtual drives, how would GoBack read or deal with them? Also the Diskkeeper, is that a disk defragger of some sort, if so, potential problem there; GoBack keeps track of EVERY single sector activity, so every thing your hard drive does, is recorded and that would include defragging. There are only two times I need to disable my GoBack, when defragging and making a complete system backup onto the same hard drive, probably the two most sector intensive activities you can do on a pc. Of the software that you have listed I have only ever used NPF and NOD; with them there was no problem. In fact, I have NEVER had any problem with GoBack and plan to make it the very first software I install on my next pc, after the OS of course. Good luck.

    Acadia
     
  4. Pretender

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    I used GoBack with Windows ME and it saved me numerous times. Much better than System Restore by Microsoft. If you choose to use GoBack then disable System Restore. GoBack takes your computer back to exactly how it was rather than partially back like System Restore. It creates all kinds of Restore points and shows you what your computer has been made to do from one point to another so it takes out a lot of the guess work. It's my understanding that Symantec.com is now the place for support of the program.....use to be Roxio....and then..........and then.........and then.
     
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    GoBack is the most useful program I have on my PC. It has saved me more times than I can count, save 1. One time I got a virus that changed the partitions on my drive so GoBack wouldn't run. But even with this 1 failure, I wouldn't have a PC without it. Using it 1 time will pay for itself. A must have.
     
  6. Caratacus

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    Thanks indeed for the comments.

    Does Goback cause performance slowdown? How much disk space does it use?
     
  7. Paul Wilders

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    Caractus,

    Here's some additional info that might be of help:

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    5) Operating System Compatibility 
    
    GoBack is compatible with all versions of Microsoft Windows 98,
    Windows Me (Millennium Edition), Windows NT 4.0 Workstation,
    Windows 2000 Professional Workstation and Windows XP Home and
    Professional. GoBack is not compatible with any other operating
    systems.
    
    GoBack is not compatible with some advanced features of Windows
    NT/2000/XP usually associated with servers. Examples include
    multiple processors, volume sets, dynamic disks, and striping.
    
    When upgrading or changing operating systems or applying operating
    system Service Packs, GoBack should first be uninstalled using the
    Add/Remove Programs option in the Windows Control Panel. Then the
    new operating system should be installed/upgraded. A version of
    GoBack that supports the new operating system should then be
    obtained and installed.
    
    Windows shutdown issues are sometimes brought to the surface after
    installing Roxio's GoBack software. GoBack is not the cause of the
    shutdown issues. Microsoft has several knowledgebase articles on
    their support web site that address operating system shutdown
    issues. Please refer to the Microsoft support web site for
    additional information on operating system shutdown issues.
    
    
    6) Drive Support
    
    GoBack can protect all drives that are recognized by the system
    BIOS. If your drive is not recognized during the initial BIOS
    hardware identification phase of the boot or requires special
    device drivers, you will not be able to use GoBack on that drive.
    GoBack does not protect removable media, such as floppy, Zip, etc.
    
    Dynamic Disk Overlays (DDOs) are supported for most major brands
    under Windows 98/Me. They are not supported nor recommended for
    GoBack installations under Windows NT/2000/XP. Examples include
    Ontrack's Disk Manager and StorageSoft's EZ-Drive.
    
    
    7) Dual Booting
    
    Dual booting is only supported for the following configuration:
    
       -Only two operating systems are being installed and one is
        Windows 9x[me=Paul Wilders]and the other is Windows NT 4.0/2000/XP.[/me]
    
       -The Microsoft supplied boot manager is the only boot manager.
    
       -GoBack must be installed once for each operating system,
        disabling (not uninstalling) GoBack between installs. 
    
    For the GoBack Electronic Software Distribution (ESD) version you
    will need to download the ESD product from within each operating
    system for the installation to complete successfully. 
    
    For complete information and instructions on installing GoBack on
    a dual-boot system configured as described above, please visit our
    knowledgebase located in the Support area on the Roxio website at
    http://www.roxio.com.
    
    
    8) Windows System Restore in Me and XP
    
    GoBack is compatible with the Windows System Restore feature in
    Windows Me and Windows XP. On a Windows Me system when GoBack is
    installed a GoBack message will be displayed informing you that it
    will disable System Restore and make itself the default restore
    program. You can re-enable System Restore if you wish. On a
    Windows XP system when GoBack is installed, System Restore will
    NOT be disabled automatically. You can disable the System Restore
    feature if you wish as both GoBack and System Restore utilize disk
    space and resources. GoBack protects not only the system files, it
    also has the added protection of user data files which System
    Restore does not.
    
    
    9) Hibernation and GoBack Auto-Revert
    
    Auto-Revert is not compatible with hibernation, a system feature
    that lets the current state be saved to hard disk while putting
    the system in an "off" state. A system coming out of hibernation
    causes an event which is interpreted by GoBack as a Restart event,
    which will trigger an unintentional Auto-Revert when using any
    "on Restart" Auto-Revert option. For information about disabling
    hibernation, see your system documentation.
    
    
    10) Using Disk Compression Utilities
    
    Disk-level compressed drives are not supported by GoBack (such as
    DriveSpace, DoubleSpace, etc.). However, GoBack is fully compatible
    with file-level compression, such as that provided by PKZIP, WINZIP,
    and ARJ. GoBack is also compatible with the file level compression
    built into Windows NT/2000/XP.

    regards.

    paul
     
  8. Pretender

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    I would assume the newer version of GoBack works similar to the older version during install. I was given the chance to accept a default amount of disk space to be used by GoBack or change it to whatever I wanted during the install. In order to change that amount at another time though.....I had to uninstall and install again in order to get the option to change disk space used. The more disk space allowed..........the further back I could restore my PC to.
     
  9. Acadia

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    Yes, GoBack will cause some performance slowdown. You must ask yourself if the protection is worth it. For me, it is no contest: it is worth it. I have been computing now for 4 and 1/2 years and have NEVER had to reinstall Win98 or restore a complete system backup. This is only because I have always been able to fall back upon GoBack to get me out of every mess. I use other backup software to create complete backups but I have never needed to restore any!

    By default GoBack takes 10% of your hard drive up to 4gigs. I believe it never goes beyond 4gigs or something like that, I forget. You can decrease it so it takes less than 10 %. You can download a pdf GoBack manual somewhere on the Symantec site for studying. Good luck.

    Acadia
     
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    You blokes are terrific value. Acadia, I'll get that manual and have a read, but I'm sure now I'll fork out the $$$ and get Goback. Thanks, everyone, for really helpful advice!
     
  11. Acadia

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    In case you have trouble finding it, here is the link to the manual:

    http://www.symantec.com/techsupp/goback/goback_3_de_info_man.html

    Acadia
     
  12. Pretender

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    I was under the impression that you could allow GoBack to use any amount of disk space that you chose? Don't know why anyone would need more than 4gigs, but no one needed more than a 300MB hard drive a few tech days ago. lol
     
  13. Acadia

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    There is a definite limit (at least there use to be) but I don't remember what it is (for some reason 4gigs is sticking in my brain)

    Acadia

    EDIT: Confirmed, I just pulled this off of the Norton Knowledgebase:

    "GoBack tries to create its history file with a size equivalent to ten percent of your total hard drive space (up to 4 GB). This size is user selectable when using the Custom installation option. If you have less than 20 percent of your hard disk space available, GoBack will use half of the available space. "
     
  14. Pretender

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    Not trying to be hard to get along with, but my interpretation of that is GoBack (by default) tries to create its.............................. (and) The size of what GoBack uses can be anything when using the Custom installation option-------up to a point where there is only 20% of hard disk available. I'm really curious about this now because I'm thinking of getting GoBack again (just freshly installed XP on my system and could have used GoBack a few times already). I'm thinking that if user has 80% of disk space available then user could choose say 60% of available for GoBack history.

    Symantec has GoBack for XP listed at $39.95. Anyone, got a better price somewhere? Gateway provided GoBack to me when I purchased my system.....Adaptec GoBack 2.22 version..........then Roxio took over..........now Symantec has go it (heard they had it before at one time?).

    Acadia, please don't take this as a confrontational post...........I'm confused over the absolute answer.
     
  15. Acadia

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    Heck, I never thought that in the least, take care.

    Acadia

    EDIT: Also found this on the Norton site: short link


    - Masked the link to narrow the thread width - LWM
     
  16. Pretender

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    I'd say that pretty much wraps it up then ;). Thanks for the info.
     
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