GMail alternatives for work?

Discussion in 'other security issues & news' started by Gullible Jones, May 25, 2016.

  1. Gullible Jones

    Gullible Jones Registered Member

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    I've recently become aware that GMail is silently failing to receive emails from certain parties. Said emails appear "sent" from the sender's perspective, but never show up in my inbox, archive, or spam folder. Worse, all parties involved are work/business related. I did not make any account changes that could cause this behavior, and searches have turned up numerous similar stories from other GMail users (and no workarounds).

    I also have reason to believe that emails I send from GMail are not always received, or may not be received in a timely fashion.

    This is obviously quite unacceptable for business use.

    What alternatives are available from other companies, that can actually be relied upon? I'm open to paid services, as long as they're not outrageously expensive. Seriously, anything to actually receive critical emails, and receive them the same day they were sent.
     
  2. Peter2150

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    Hi GJ

    I use comcast for business, and I can count on one hand the days I've had any issues, and that is out of 5+ years. I also use AOL, and believe it or not it has extremely reliable. For voice mail, I use Voice Nation and it to has been very reliable. All my voice mails come in as attachments to Email.

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  3. TairikuOkami

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    I now the feeling, I had the same experience with Microsoft email, it is worse than gmail. I have mail.ru and many emails refused it, well at least I was notified sometimes about it. It is generally better to use a service, which actually offers a business email, since it understands the importance of it.

    https://www.fastmail.com/signup/business.html
     
  4. Gullible Jones

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    @Peter2150

    Comcast is a non-option unfortunately. I've seen personally how their sausage is made; their site security is garbage, and I don't trust them at all.

    AOL, dunno. I'm surprised they haven't gone under by now. Also, not to put too fine a point on it, they have an awful reputation in my field. That reputation might or might not be accurate now, but unfortunately it could hurt me anyway.

    Voice mail I've actually not had any problems with, which is weird because my old Android stupidphone handles that. Maybe it uses a VoIP service separate from Google services.

    @TairikuOkami

    Taking a look at FastMail, it looks great! Paid, inexpensive, two-factor auth, open source technologies, no ads... wow. And it's owned by Opera Software now. That might be a good bet. Thank you very much! :D

    Main problem I can see, is I'm still stuck with the GMail account (the stupidphone is tied to it). But I could at least get away from that for business stuff.

    Again, thanks!
     
  5. JLD

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    Microsoft Online Exchange. $48 per year per account. Unlimited aliases. The most impressive email anti-malware I have seen from an email provider. Love it
     
  6. Joxx

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    Not any more...
    ... that's from Wikipedia
     
  7. TheWindBringeth

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    I don't know whether GJ would be interested in this route, but I'd like to ask. Have any of you come across a managed VPS solution that you really like for email?

    Edit: Regarding Fastmail, noticed this: "two live replicas of your email (one of which is in a different country)".
     
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  8. Gullible Jones

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    @Joxx

    Thanks, missed that. Having just seen the news about Opera getting bought out, I was wondering if that would be a problem; glad to hear it won't be.

    (Also? I fail at reading comprehension.)

    @TheWindBringeth

    I was actually thinking about that. It would be a learning opportunity. OTOH, I'd have to deal with all the security and admin stuff. Which could be an advantage (I don't have to rely so much on people I don't know), and also a disadvantage (I have to never ever goof up even a little).

    Re replicas, I don't think that will be an issue. Yet. :(
     
  9. TheWindBringeth

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    I mentioned a managed VPS. Basically, one where host OS and application maintenance tasks are taken care of by the hosting provider. Versus an unmanaged one, where you may install available images but otherwise you are on your own. I think reality is: there is a range of management available, and different providers offer different levels of service. IOW, you don't have to take on all the security/admin stuff unless you want to and feel up to it.

    I haven't looked hard, but I *think* managed VPS can get a little bit pricey if all you want is simple email. Then again, you wouldn't just be getting email but also some other things you may want/need (webserver, ...).
     
  10. Gullible Jones

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    So, update: I think I found the problem, and can probably stick with GMail for now...

    I had a filter in place to auto-delete most emails over one year old. But it looks like dates were somehow wrong on some emails, or something, and some emails were being deleted instantly on arrival.

    I've removed the filter, and now seem to be getting all my emails. :oops:

    Still perplexed about the details. But at least it was partly my fault.
     
  11. itman

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    My bank refuses to allow my AOL e-mail address for e-alerts stating its a security risk:rolleyes:
     
  12. NWOAbschaum

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    U can try ProtonMail. Its One of the securest out at the Moment.
     
  13. ProTruckDriver

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    I have 3 AOL Accounts open for the past 15+ years. On one account I had over 100 emails saved. When AOL did a face lift on their website about a year or two ago I lost all folders and saved emails. I only use AOL if I suspect I will be getting spam back from sent emails. Sorry, I don't trust AOL anymore. :thumbd:
     
  14. fax

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    Interesting but does not support any third party email client, or I am missing something?
     
  15. NWOAbschaum

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    Im pretty sure this is not possible at the moment. Dont know if they will change it in the near future.
     
  16. itman

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    ProntonMail doesn't support any of the protocols used by e-mail clients:

    At this time Protonmail does not support IMAP/SMTP or POP3 due to the technology ProtonMail utilizes within web browsers to encrypt and decrypt your messages. We apologize for the inconvenience and are working on creative solutions to allow IMAP/SMTP use.

    Ref.: https://protonmail.com/support/knowledge-base/imap-smtp-and-pop3-setup/#comment-1565
     
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