Giving Firefox another chance

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  1. luciddream

    luciddream Registered Member

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    The last time I used it I found it to be unstable & slow. Not sure if they've made improvements or what, but this time around it's perfectly stable and just as fast as IE with my current setup. Not sure if it'll permanently replace IE for me, but in the meantime I'm sticking with it. Plan on trying out Opera as well.
     
  2. FadeAway

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    Certainly no expert here, but have been using FF since v.1.0.something,
    about 2 years. Never had any major problems. Occasionally when
    a new version does something I do not like or understand, I just
    do a search on the topic at the MozillaZine forum or Google, and by golly,
    someone expert has already started a thread with the same complaint.

    Usually it ends up with a work-around either in about:config, or
    a slight change in the coding of some XML document in a plug-in.

    I do not use Noscript, finding it cumbersome and inconvenient, but
    do use AdblockPlus and Customize Google. Others may disagree, LOL.

    v.2.0.0.6 running great here
     
  3. ThunderZ

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    Ditto here. With one exception, NoScript is one of the first add-ons I add in. :D
     
  4. EASTER

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    FireFox is a widely acceptable and secure alternative web browser most fine very useful but there are many others, the least of which one is OPERA that i always found speedy and safe with some nice features.
     
  5. Rasheed187

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    FF will never become my default browser if the slow startup (20 seconds!) problem don´t get fixed. I mean this is ridiculous, even without extensions it´s still slow, there is no excuse for this, Dr Orca (Gecko based) and Opera startup a lot quicker. :cautious:
     
  6. ThunderZ

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    20 seconds? :eek: I might start looking at other things on your PC for a problem. FF may not be the fastest launching browser around but it is up and running in about 5 seconds on my tower from the time I click on the quick launch icon. I have read where many report an almost instant launch.
     
  7. tradetime

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    Personally I prefer Opera, would recommend giving that a try if you haven't already. I have tried Firefox and liked it just fine too, so my choice is simply based on personal preference, nothing more. Both seem to be capable and secure browsers and I honestly couldn't recommend one over the other. Test drive them and see which you like best.
     
  8. Mrkvonic

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    Hello,

    I would suspect an anti-virus. At work, I'm forced to use McAfee crap. The difference when the AV is disabled and not is 6-7 seconds!

    At home, FF starts in about 1 seconds or so on all machines.

    Mrk
     
  9. LUSHER

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    Well the guy uses pretty much the most heavy duty AV, firewall and HIPS (maybe even two!) he can find, so it's no surprise that his firefox is going to be around 20 seconds.

    Besides sometimes he is talking about his virtual machine, which makes things even slower..
     
  10. Rasheed187

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    OK, now we´re getting somewhere, so you guys think the problem is related to my system? I highly doubt that this is the case, just to make things clear, this "20 seconds startup" problem is always when running it the first time after bootup, after that it launches in about one second. However, if I load some other app which needs to use quite a lot of RAM (VMWare for example), FF will take 20 seconds again. And no, I don´t even use any AV/AS/AT scanner. Just a firewall and a HIPS, and these tools don´t cause any problems at all.
     
  11. FadeAway

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    Times here for first loading of FF after machine boot:

    Old machine, 768Mb RAM, AMD XP2000+ CPU = 5 seconds

    New machine, 1GB RAM, AMD ATH3500 CPU = 3 seconds

    Both load faster the next time

    edit: Running WinXP SP2 both machines
     
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  12. Pedro

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    Don't install the Talkback extension if you run DEP with "AlwaysOn" mode (by editing the boot.ini file). It will crash FF without warning.
    With OptOut, it won't crash, and that alone reveals wonders about that option (supposedly OptOut means DEP is on for all programs except the ones you opt out).
     
  13. 19monty64

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    Even in Ubuntu, firefox with no add-ons loads slower than Opera. It doesn't take 20 secs., but it is noticibly slower. I know it's not the security that's running, because the browser IS the security. With a 768m-P4 initial install of "feisty fawn", FF is the slowest loading app. If you need the security, FF wins hands down (why I keep it)...but when visiting known safe site (98% of time), the password-manager and mouse-gestures in Opera can't be beat. What's a light-weight version of FF that's available in ubuntuo_O
     
  14. tradetime

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    So Firefox is more secure than Opera? Did not know that, I need to keep up to date more.
     
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    With plug-ins....yes!
     
  16. tradetime

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    Which plugins are necessary? And what do they protect against?
     
  17. maddawgz

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    I luv my FF wouldnlt be without it :rolleyes:
    FF will never become my default browser if the slow startup (20 seconds!

    that seems a long time 20 sec?? maybe something else...mine opens in 1sec flat ! if i could get the toolbar in msn groups to work? when i reply in there id never use IE, but thats only reason i use IE

    edit update msn sayz

    "use a non-microsoft browser at your peril.
     
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