Geswall ........isolate or not isolate

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  1. ViVek

    ViVek Registered Member

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    Hi all,i got a little question about isolating music and video players
    Is there any sense to isolate music and video players when my music and video(downloaded from internet are "untrusted"(isolated)?

    for example if a downloaded mp3 is isolated it cannot do something"bad" to my pc because is isolated(mp3)even if i lisen this mp3 in non isolated music player(aimp)


    i read
    http://gentlesecurity.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=35

    "However, for most cases it would be sufficient to isolate just browser and e-mail client."
     
  2. Kees1958

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    Well,

    There is a difference between theoretical and practical risk. How many were not infected by WMP exploits using unpatched systems? So even without protection it i snot a certainty you will get nailed. Most malware is delivered through mail and internet, so when you have got those covered, your are okay.

    Security is a state of mind is a quote of a respected Wilders member to which I agree completely.

    I am driving a car while I know it is much more unsafe than flying, yet after having returned safely of travel by air with some small short distance - city hopper type airplane, with a low budget air operator, I always call my wife to tell I am landed safely. Rational NO, emotional state of mind YES, same applies to security IMO

    Cheers
     
  3. aigle

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    i think better to isolate the music/ video player etc.
     
  4. Page42

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    That's how I do it.

    In GeSWall Console, all multimedia applications have default security levels set to "Isolate on access".
     
  5. ViVek

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    ok thanksi will choose isolate on acces
     
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    What is the difference between...

    "Isolate on access"
    versus
    "Always start isolated"
    o_O
     
  7. Kees1958

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    Digging far back in my memory

    Isolate on acess = isolates a monitored application when the file it is opened which is an untrusted file. At first startup you will be prompted what you want to do (isolate, etc)

    Always start isolated = always isolates the monitored application, even when it is started with a trusted file. GW will not prompt you at startup.

    Consider this a guestimate until you get answers of GW users ;)
     
  8. YODA

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    * Isolate on access - application is trusted but once it tries to establish a network connection or access untrusted resources, a pop-up dialog to isolate the application appears, see Getting Started with GeSWall. Prior GeSWall 2.7 the level is known as "Trusted".

    * Always start isolated - application is isolated on start, no pop-up dialogs are displayed. Prior GeSWall 2.7 the level is known as "Trusted, auto isolation".


    http://www.gentlesecurity.com/docs/applications.html
     
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    Nothing to add to the two fine responses above. :)
     
  10. acuariano

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    pardonmy ignorance,i always heard good comments about GW..is this something like sandboxie?..does it protect all browsers?.
    -does it advice me to block,delte a file when dangerous?
     
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    Good stuff Yoda. Brief. Accurate.

    I posed same question at GW's forum. Henk replied as follows...

     
  13. acuariano

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    guys thanks for the explanation,,,
    can this work with sandboxie together or not?
     
  14. Blackcat

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    General advice is not to run the two together.

    GW+SB=Overkill.
     
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    GW+SB=Overkill+blue screen:D
     
  16. acuariano

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    so...both are the same high quality protection?
     
  17. Blackcat

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    Relevant recent thread here .

    So they both offer high quality protection in different ways.
     
  18. acuariano

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    thanks to all.
     
  19. jmonge

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    acuariano sandboxie is mucho mejor y menos problemas:)
     
  20. acuariano

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    but is not on your list,,also there is not enough information in what to sandbox and what don't.
     
  21. jmonge

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    it is not in my list cause there is defensewall which is similar and paid for:)
     
  22. jmonge

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    most of the applications that uses that internet must be sandbox and also there is alot of info in theier website www.sandboxie.com
     
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    NO blue screen for me. SBIE & GW run together just fine for me. Did you ever consider that there might be a problem with your set-up rather than with the programs themselves? ;)
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    I agree with Blackcat that {SBIE + GW} is basically overkill. However, if you are highly paranoid about keyloggers, then {SBIE + GW} *can* give a modicum more protection against keyloggers than does {GW alone}.

    But (IMO) {GW + Roboform} or {GW+KeePass2} can protect better against keyloggers than can {SBIE + GW}.
     
  24. jmonge

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    maybe :) and also i have service pack 2 with xp and not too much ram:D
    and yes it is overkill
     
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    Ewe cannot make lamb without Ram. :cool:
     
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