Geswall Free and ShadowDefender

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  1. trjam

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    Ok, what about this setup. Geswall seems, relative term, to be a tad quicker then Sandboxie. It isolates all while in Shadow mode, which I stay in for extended periods of time. Is this ok, overkill, or missing something. Also, how do you delete the logs.

    Geswall isnt bad from what I can tell, early on.
     
  2. Perman

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    Hi,

    This combination sounds good, similar to my setup---SBIE + DW + DeepFreeze.

    Differences from yours are: DW will compensate SBIE's weakness (such as Anti logging, Anti leaking capability), DeepFreeze covers all hard disk, unlike SD, which protects volume C only.

    My suggestion, GesWall in not a 100% foolproof isolation apparatus, a HIPS may be required for the unthinkable moment.

    Take care.
     
  3. trjam

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    Actually the latest version of SD allows you to cover all drives. I like this setup and so far find no weaknesses except Vista Mail which isnt included. I did email support about this.
     
  4. solcroft

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    trjam,

    AFAIK GeSWall's logs are undeletable for the free version. They'll be purged when they occupy more than 10% HDD space, if I recall. And your setup is fine - as are all other setups, as long as the one who implemented them is able to use them correctly.

    Perman, Sandboxie can be configured for some rather powerful anti-leak, anti-keylog, and anti-anything settings. wraithdu posted about this a few threads ago in another Sandboxie thread, I think.
     
  5. ErikAlbert

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    You can't remove ALL .log-files :
    1. some of them are in use and can't be deleted.
    2. others are re-created after reboot and it's useless to delete those.
    According a search on [C:], I have 13 .log-files. How many do you have ?
     
  6. Perman

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    Hi,

    Thanks for the info, I also saw your post at Kafan, :thumb: :thumb:
    I will implement your advice.
     
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    That is true of any security software.
     
  8. MikeNAS

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    DefenseWall + Sandboxie & Shadow Defender here. Yeah SD covers all hard disk and even usb memorys too. Much stronger and secure than DeepFreeze :D

    I have added pop-up free firewall too because my laptop is used in many places and networks. Now I'm waiting xB 2.0 Beta invite so I can test that.
     
  9. Perman

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    Hi,

    I have a paid copy of SD v.1.1.0.237.

    Last time I used it, seems to me it can only shadow one volume at a time. I have local disks C,E and a ramdisk H(created by virtual drive pro). I use ramdisk to speed up window performance ( I am completely sold on the theory that reading from ram is much faster than from harddisk ?).

    I will take a look again at SD, DF seems not to protect lower level risk. And DF's staff has refused to add that protection (reading from other thread here), this worries me.

    Take care.
     
  10. trjam

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    So Perman, what did you find out.:)
     
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    I have to admit, I prefer Geswall much more then SafeSpace. Just wish the overall cost was a tad bit lower but, it really is a great application.:thumb:
     
  12. Peter2150

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    Latest SD v237 shadows all disks here.
     
  13. trjam

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    This is what I see.
     

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    Same here. Just check them both.
     
  15. Perman

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    Hi,, Trjam, Peter:

    Finally I got around to deal with SD. I reinstall with new d/l , everything goes well, except it still can not shadow the virtual ram disk H, I guess this is normal.

    One quick question: With C, E drive in shadow mode, while ram disk H is not, is there any risk involved ? I mean , is it safe to use this set up? or I better remove that ram disk (still in normal mode) ?

    Thanks for your asking.
     
  16. Peter2150

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    Intuitively I am not surprised it couldn't shadow the ram disk. I'd remove it.

    Pete
     
  17. Huupi

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    Surprised about SBIE weaknesses ?:eek:
     
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    It depends what kind of Sandboxie settings you have. If only your browser etc. can run and connect to internet it rock solid. Still I use DW too :D ShadowDefender protects all partitions and usb memorys.
     
  19. Huupi

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    Thanks Mikenas,i did'nt read all posts after ,these explain my questions. :blink:
     
  20. Huupi

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    Is there any need for a firewall with your already good protection,i thought it perfectly fit for public places. just me.

    afterall with wraithdu rules in SB it should be enough !
     
  21. Peter2150

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    Weakness? Sandboxie was never designed as a detection tool, so why is it a weakness that it has no keylogger detection capability.

    Assuming in one's dodgy surfing a keylogger is downloaded, if it requires drivers or services it's stopped, and even if temporarily installed,l if you empty sandbox right before say using a banking site, it's gone anyway.

    Pete
     
  22. Perman

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    Hi,
    Your concern may have been addressed by Solcroft few posting before.

    He also published a fix for SBIE to enhance its anti-logging, anti-leaking capabilities in one of the oversea forums. Very amazing. I am in the process to implement it.

    Perhaps he can repeat it here in English. :)
     
  23. Huupi

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    O boys it was just an understatement,you english speaking guys are totally humorless.

    For quite some time now i declared loud and clear that i'm a dedicated follower of SBIE,so my ''surprise'' was actually questioning the partial knowledge of the poster, thats it ! period. :mad:
     
  24. Huupi

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    Who do you mean Wraithdu or Solcroft ? Never heard or read that Solcroft made a fix for SBIE !
     
  25. ErikAlbert

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    I always thought that Tzuk made the fixes in SBIE.
     
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