Discussion in 'other anti-virus software' started by Securon, Apr 4, 2014.
Welcome to Wilders!
Good Evening! I have returned too a Blissful State of Sicherheit! Have A Super Groovy...Where It's At Weekend. Sincerely...Securon
Well done! G-Data rules!
Germany is good at making knives and ships though. And perhaps in soccer too.
You guys annoyed the hell out of me. So I decided to give G Data AV a try. Well, it's too heavy for my liking. But at least they don't include nonsense like a registry cleaner, at least in the AV version. That's at least something honourable in this age. Aside of that, it seems to be running pretty well here. I'll keep it for a while before going back to my no-AV setup.
I was looking at this 2014 AV-Test again.
Wow, G-Data did great.
A perfect protection score.
I've looked at this product Upside Down & Inside Out, and it's just great.
Stay sicher my friends.
That is all.
Also look here: https://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/latest_comparative/index
You are right. That is a particularly strong result.
The #1 finish in PC Welt Magazine is pretty strong too.
Das Fazit von PC Welt (01/2014):
„Auf den ersten Platz schafft es G Data Internet Security 2014 mit einer sehr guten Leistung beim Virenschutz. Die verhaltensbasierte Erkennung konnte alle angreifenden Viren stoppen, und auch der Test des Virenscanners lieferte sehr gute Erkennungsraten.“
So basically what this says (FleischmannTV, please jump in and correct anything I've got wrong) -- G-Data absolutely kicked butt on the other products and that you are not sicher using an inferior alternative solution.
Stay sicher my friends.
The only way to get an idea for the protections' quality is to read the tests of credible companies like AV-Comparatives, AV-Test and Virus Bulletin.
They do not all give exactly the same results (testing methods are not the same) but they give a good idea.
Does any of you use the G Data software together with EMET 5.0?
If so, do you get any G Data BankGuard false positives?
I do. Since I installed EMET 5.0 on August 1, I have got eight BankGuard false positives so far (on average that's one BankGuard false positive in every five days).
Of course I reported to G Data Support, but the G Data developers team hasn't been able to fix that G Data BankGuard and EMET 5.0 incompatibility, so far. It is hard to find out what exactly is causing the BankGuard false positives.
It's a pity, because the G Data software was perfectly compatible with earlier EMET versions, and the current BankGuard false positives are getting rather annoying.
If any of you use the G Data software together with EMET 5.0, and you get BankGuard false positives (or if you get BankGuard false positives even without using EMET 5.0), would you please report to G Data Support. More information will help the G Data developers team to diagnose and fix the BankGuard false positives.
Thanks very much.
Did the G-Data dudes say they were working on it?
Good to see that you are staying sicher my friend.
And G-Data has now developed a free USB Keyboard Guard.
G-Data Keyboard Guard
Well, G Data Support passed my reports (several, by now) on to the G Data BankGuard developers, and we hope the development team will be able to diagnose and fix the issue. But as I cannot pinpoint what it is that triggers BankGuard (BankGuard alerts only mention there is 'Unknown malware detected', with no further details) and the issue is hard to reproduce (it just happens again some days later, but with no clue of what triggers it), I guess it won't be easy for the BankGuard team to diagnose and fix the issue.
So, yes, it has G Data's attention, and yes, I think we can say G Data is working on it, but I am not too hopeful about a quick diagnose and fix for the issue.
That is why I asked if any of you get G Data BankGuard false positives, and if so, if you would be so kind to report to G Data Support.
By the way, G Data Support told me that nine out of ten G Data BankGuard reports they get are false positives.
I don't know what the absolute numbers of BankGuard alerts are, but I think nine out of ten false alarms is way to much. And annoying. I think G Data needs to rethink BankGuard, find out what causes all those false positives, and fix it.
I'm not using GData at the moment but I can tell you I have had all sort of problems with IE11 when I installed EMET 5.0 weeks ago (removed it hours later) and that's considering I was running only their Windows 8.1's built in WindowsDefender.
Yes, on certain systems there are issues with EMET 5.0, as well as there were issues with earlier EMET versions on other systems, while other systems have no or only minor issues with EMET. I think we can say that EMET is an interesting piece of software ;-)
But, as I get BankGuard false positives since implementing EMET 5.0, I am particularly interested in that specific issue, most of all because G Data development hasn't been able to fix that BankGuard false positives issue, yet.
That is why I asked if any of you use G Data software together with EMET 5.0, and if so, if you get G Data BankGuard false positives, or if perhaps you even get BankGuard false positives without using EMET 5.0.
Thanks for the info, SM.
I, personally, see kind of 'difficult' for them to achieve full compatibility with EMET 5.0 given the apparent complexity on how the latter works.
Anyway, we'll see how GData manages it.
It's probably better to post this issue in EMET's thread instead. At least for a short-term fix that could possibly be proposed by other users.
Thanks for the suggestion to post in the EMET thread, GrafZeppelin.
I have considered to give the BankGuard issue its own thread. But first I'd like to see if other G Data users may be experiencing the same BankGuard issue. I thought I could be so bold to ask in this G Data users thread, even though the issue has nothing to do with the "Release Candidate" (but neither have the other recent replies in this thread, of course ;-) Anyhow, I do not want to hijack this thread. If there is any feedback showing that other users are experiencing the same BankGuard false positives issue, I think it is sensible to start a new thread - on the other hand, if there is no such feedback, this initiative ends here. If there are no other G Data users experiencing the same BankGuard issue, I must not bother starting a new BankGuard issue thread.
Your suggestion was to post in the EMET thread, GrafZeppelin. Of course, I understand, but it is by no means clear it is an EMET issue. I do not get any EMET alerts, but I get BankGuard false positives. G Data seems to falsely react to something, it is not EMET that gives false positives. The only relation is that the BankGuard false positives started a couple of days after implementing EMET 5.0.
The most frustrating aspect is that there is hardly any feedback from G Data development in this matter. That is why I posted here in this G Data thread, to see if anyone is experiencing the same BankGuard false positives issue, trying to get some more information.
and best regards
I think it's never good to overlay several protections. GDATA already has a protection against software vulnerabilities.
That was not the question.
The question was and is whether any of you use G Data software together with EMET 5.0, and if so, if you get G Data BankGuard false positives, or if perhaps you even get BankGuard false positives without using EMET 5.0.
I would still like to know about that.
EMET is meant as a complementary protection.
There were no issues with G Data 2015's Exploit Protection and/or BankGuard with EMET 4.0, EMET 4.1 and EMET 4.1 update 1.
Yes, but there is no information available regarding what protection is provided by G Data 2015's Exploit Protection. I cannot tell if it may be as good or better than EMET and I wouldn't need EMET at all, or whether G Data 2015's Exploit Protection is not as good as EMET and therefore it would be wise to use EMET as a complementary protection.
I decided to post in the EMET thread as well,
as GrafZeppelin kindly suggested.
I have no false positives with BankGuard (GDATA).
Having multiple security softwares can cause false positives.
Thank you very much.
Is that with or without EMET 5.0?
As I said, EMET is meant as a complementary protection.
There were no issues with G Data 2015's Exploit Protection and/or BankGuard with EMET 4.0, EMET 4.1 and EMET 4.1 Update 1.
I am trying to find out whether or not EMET 5.0 is the cause of the BankGuard false positives, and if so, through which interaction mechanism.
I have only one protection: GDATA Internet Security, that's enough.
Several protection software may impair safety (conflicts of drivers for example).
OK, thank you very much, that is clear.
I would like to hope so, but there is no way to be sure.
For instance - as G Data does not specify what protection is provided by G Data 2015's Exploit Protection, I cannot tell if G Data's Exploit Protection may be as good as or even better than EMET so I wouldn't need EMET, or whether G Data's Exploit Protection is not as good as EMET and therefore it would be wise to use EMET as a complementary protection.
But you may notice that I am repeating what I already said before ;-)
You may notice that you are repeating what you said before, also ;-)
Let me do the same, let's hope for the last time:
I am not talking about two anti-virus programs on one computer system, like for instance G Data InternetSecurity plus Kaspersky Internet Security. It is a known fact that one should not use two anti-virus programs on one computer system. But I am not talking about two anti-virus programs. I am talking about G Data plus EMET. EMET is meant as a complementary protection. Usually it does not conflict with anti-virus programs and other real-time anti-malware programs, apart from a few exceptions (like Malwarebytes Anti-Exploit, for instance). And as I said before, there were no issues with G Data 2015's Exploit Protection and/or BankGuard with EMET 4.0, EMET 4.1 and EMET 4.1 Update 1. I do not know whether the BankGuard false positives I have been experiencing were due to a new and so far unknown conflict of G Data 2015's Exploit Protection and/or BankGuard with EMET 5.0, or whether there is no relation at all. I am trying to find out, and I am hoping for helpful feedback.
You do as you like but do not complain to have problems.
Me with GDATA alone, I have no problem, you have GDATA + EMET you have problems. Conclude.