From You 2 MS, With Love !

Discussion in 'privacy general' started by Spanner intheWorks, Jan 10, 2005.

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  1. Ailric

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    In the end whether it is a software, internet provider, or service you must eventually have a certain amount of trust. Many here trust companies that make products like TDS, BOClean, NOD32 and LNS... and with good reason. You give them your name, address, credit card number, etc. all without a second thought.

    Microsoft is one of the largest companies in the world. They became so by making an operating system for the lower priced IBM and IBM clone computers (compared to Apple). They give away more money every year than most companies make. Do you think they want your credit card number to sell on the internet for peanuts? Do you think they want to know what porn sites you visited or your girlfriends' name? I heard all kinds of suspicions but never a shred of fact.

    Do you honestly think Microsoft enjoys the millions of computer users phone calls telling them "my their computer doesn't work, what should I do?" They now include a basic firewall (way better than nothing). They purchased one of the best antispyware apps and offer it for free (at least for now). They will be offering for free a virus cleaner similar to McAfee Stinger. They are doing a major rewrite of Windows slated for release in 2006. All this and they still get blasted.

    If you don't trust Microsoft to some extent, then may I humbly suggest that you should switch to Apple or Linux. It would be downright stupid to use a computer you believe is being tracked and information stolen by "Dr. Evil" for some nefarious gain or world domination.
     
  2. bigc73542

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    Ailric, I agree with you one hundred percent. I also believe that if someone is not happy with microsoft or the way they do business they have the right to remove all of the microsoft products from their computers anytime they want. There is no one stopping them from useing another operating system.

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  3. bigbuck

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    Agreed!....But (at present) we require 'third-party programs' to secure our systems and backup our data etc. And I'll share again the wonderful level of customer support by this company;

    Dear Brad,

    Thank you for contacting Microsoft Online Assisted Support. My name is John and I will be assisting you with your case involving Windows XP.

    As I understand it, your issue is you have a ghosted image of Windows XP and have installed SP2 which is causing you issues with Add/Remove programs and you would like steps to resolve this issue. If this is not correct, please let me know.

    I will be unable to assist you with this case due to the version of Windows installed on your computer being an ghosted image. Microsoft does not support ghost and any other third party programs.

    Please let me know if this resolves your issue or if you require further assistance. I will stand by for your response.


    Kind regards,
    John O****
    Microsoft Australia & New Zealand Technical Support

    Buck.
     
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    well in all reality if i had a chevrolet and put a ford transmission in it I doubt that chevy would warranty it either. ;)
     
  5. bigbuck

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    Yep, point taken......but at least chevy make a transmission! we are using apps which (in many cases) there are no equivalent M$ product. It's a bit like Chev producing a vehicle without brakes, suspension or a cooling system.
     
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    I also see your point, it kind of puts the user in a position that he is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. A genuine catch 22 situation.

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    Exactly Curt!......I want M$ to support their product so then I have to remove all non-M$ apps.......er.......and this would account for everyone's AV to start with!!!! I suppose this explains (somewhat) where they are going with their own Antispy & AV apps of late?
    Brad.
     
  8. Bubba

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    Exactly....and if ever I question what data is going to MS....I'll have no problem sniffing the packets before accusing them of uploading data "Unrelated 2 what" I am "giving them PERMISSION 2 do in the first place."
     
  9. guy

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    Yeah, if I want to turn my computer into a big expensive paperweight!!
    A quote from my Bluetack hosts file...
    I'm not saying they're a monster but they really could be trying a lot harder to secure us. I mean with all the programs we have to use, even after SP2 install! DSOstop2, WWDC, Safe XP just to name a few. And what about all the IE exploits and buffer overflow flaws that can't be fixed with such programs? Bugoff shows us just how many exploits there are that M$ just doesn't want to patch. They got the money AND resources to patch them all, quickly even! But they just don't want to, at all. The fact that they ARE a monopoly and I HAVE TO use their product (unless I want to turn my computer into a paperweight as stated above by installing Linux) is probably what infuriates me most. And I can't say I very much appreciated the secret firewall patch you can only get while having Automatic Updates on. With that said, I still believe we have a right to dislike M$.
     
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