Frog, what do you recommend backing up in the cloud?

Discussion in 'backup, imaging & disk mgmt' started by ratchet, Jan 15, 2017.

  1. ratchet

    ratchet Registered Member

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    I have the documents folder, but am thinking of (C:) Program Files and Program Files (x86). The thought being if my house exploded (Don't seriously think that but you get my drift!), at least I'd know what all I had installed and utilized!
     
  2. n8chavez

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    Sure. Why not? As long as it's encrypted I see no downside. Drives fail, even external backups. So the more drives backups are stored the better, as long as you do it safely.
     
  3. TheRollbackFrog

    TheRollbackFrog Imaging Specialist

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    Ratchet, if you're using an imaging system to back up your disk, that information will be contained in your System images (they can be mounted and viewed, if necessary). If you just need a neat list of installed programs, this TIP should get you what you need... and you'll be quite surprised what that list will show you (many things you never knew you had installed on that System) o_O

    I, personally, am not a user of "cloud storage." I use only what would be considered a personal cloud... a backup method for both my System images and my very important files. Some of it's networked (to keep it out of my house) and some of it's managed locally by myself... both are off of my System.
     
  4. Peter2150

    Peter2150 Global Moderator

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    For me for general cloud stuff I use Mediafiire. For secure business stuff I use Jungledisk which is a subsidiary of Rackspace. The difference is the TOS and how they guarantee data safety
     
  5. Robin A.

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    The TIP doesn´t work in my case, only lists some programs.
     
  6. stapp

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    If you just want a text list of installed programs just open CCleaner, select Tools then Uninstall tab.

    Then click on 'save to text file' at bottom right of page.
     
  7. Deckard

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    You have Arq :
    a soft from Mac which is now available for PC also, since few. Robust in security, "The backup format is well-documented so even if the app stops being developed, users should still be able to get their data out of the backups". With Arq, you can backup on Amazon Glacier : $.007/GB per month.
    https://www.arqbackup.com/
     
  8. ratchet

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    A lot of good ideas and I appreciate it. So the next question, which is MR related so perhaps bump it to there, how do I save the MR images? I have 25 GB of free OneDrive. They now allow 10 GB upload at a time. Compression aside, it used to be way less than that, so I just used to upload certain files but over the weekend I did my whole document folder.
     
  9. TheRollbackFrog

    TheRollbackFrog Imaging Specialist

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    Free CLOUD storage space is usually not large enough or fast enough to allow for System images unless your System is pretty small.

    Most people, eventually, keep those images OFF their System... and if they're very important, that place is in another secure location, not where the System is located. Some use network connectivity and others use mountable external disks that are kept "off-site" for safe keeping.
     
  10. dogbite

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    For backup up and (optional) encryption on cloud I cannot recommend enough rclone. It works great.

    http://rclone.org/
     
  11. Alexhousek

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    I agree. My OS partition is "small" but it would take 60 hours to upload an image to the cloud.
     
  13. TheRollbackFrog

    TheRollbackFrog Imaging Specialist

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    The basic problem is that users across the planet have all kinds of Internet services... some robust, some meek. I am stuck with using HIGH SPEED DSL at about 16.8mb download (adequate) but not much more than about 1mb upload. A service like that is almost useless as far as the cloud is concerned, especially as it relates to image backups. I had to look elsewhere for my image backup. The cloud works fine for occasional file transfers to others but that's about it for me.

    Some of the real fast services (robust) can make that job easier, but I believe most users really don't have access to that kind of speed (cost may be prohibitive).
     
  14. Brian K

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    I have the same internet speeds. 20/1 Mbits/sec.
     
  15. pandlouk

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    Don't know if anyone is interested but genie9 offers 1TB for life 19.99£/ 29.99$/ 29.99€ (plus VAT) with zoolz. (Christmas offer but still valid)
    http://home.zoolz.co.uk/1tb-lifetime-holiday-offer/

    ps. I do not know how safe it is or how good zoolz is. I'll have better view in a few months.

    Personally I never upload anything in the cloud unless is first encrypted locally and for sure I would never upload a system image.
    Heck, 10 or even 2 minutes when restoring seems lots of time when I want to restore an OS.... I do not dare to imagine how it would seem to restore from a remote cloud or to redownload the backup from a remote cloud.

    Panagiotis
     
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    Strange, I've had no problems. Maybe try another browser.
     
  17. Alexhousek

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    I've tried Chrome, IE, and Edge (the only browsers I have installed) and that site does not render correctly in any of them. I'll paste a picture below:

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  18. TheRollbackFrog

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    Alex, you might want to DISABLE, temporarily, any AV AM you may have running and try for access.

    I have no problem with that site in any browser...
     
  19. Alexhousek

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    Interestingly, I get the same result whether at home on my main PC or at work on my work Surface Pro. It could be a DNS issue, possibly or a regional issue?
     
  20. TheRollbackFrog

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    You can switch your HOME System over to OpenDNS for a quick test... I've used it for years.
     
  21. cloggy49

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    Zoolz encrypts your files before uploading them, using an SSL connection (for unknown reasons this is not enabled by default.. :-( )
    However, you have to pay attention as there are 2 options when installing Zoolz:
    1) Encrypt your data with a Zoolz generated encryption key which is stored on their servers, so they can decrypt your data
    2) Encrypt your data with a user created encryption key that is not stored on their servers, so they cannot decrypt your data.
    I'm using Zoolz for already many years and it works quite well for all my user files of both my PC and the one of my wife and also for quite some files stored on my Synology. It is a cheap cloud solution but in case you want to restore your files, it might take 3-5 hours to have them restored. This restore process can be faster if you have enabled the Hybrid+ function
    Zoolz is my 3rd and offline backup option but not for system backup images. In case of a disaster, I can quickly rebuild my Windows10 environment from scratch.
     
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