Frog, Peter, et al!

Discussion in 'backup, imaging & disk mgmt' started by ratchet, Oct 6, 2015.

  1. ratchet

    ratchet Registered Member

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    I'm one of the individuals that always had great success with AX64 v1 and v2. I almost always just used hot restores. I even did a successful restore on W10 as a mere experiment. In the vein of an "old friend," I just downloaded the beta but upon the attempted installation was warned "not compatible with Norton's boot protection" and to disable it. I was aware of the new recovery system but had no idea of the potential conflict with Norton Security.
    So here is the thing. Indeed, my Macrium incremental restores pretty much mimic AX's hot restores in speed (and of course in reliability) and although I've never even come close to ever having any type of malware, is it really worth the risk disabling the Norton feature just for the sake of an "old friend?"
    Thank you!
     
  2. Peter2150

    Peter2150 Global Moderator

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    HI Ratchet

    I've been getting the same kind of warning re Perfect Disk, and it says if you continue no support. Since the tracking file(not unique to AX64, breaking and needing repair, on average my speeds didn't begin to compare with Macrium. I hate to say it, but these guys don't even have a clue about their market. I would stick with Macrium and forget an "old friend" I am not even bothering with the newest beta's

    Pete
     
  3. TheRollbackFrog

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    Ratchet, Norton's BOOT Protection is an option provided by Norton and few other "Security Systems." They claim to be ready for virus detection even before Windows starts to roll itself out. Since AX64's new restore operation runs at the same level, I s'pect there may be a problem with Norton detecting something strange either before or after (for sure) an AX64 restoration has been performed.

    Personally, I don't feel this Norton type of protection is as useful as it sounds but theses Security Cos keep adding features in order to separate themselves from the others, even if the features aren't really that useful.

    That said, if you feel this Norton feature is that important, you'll have to give up on the "new" Native App restoration feature of AX64. Options: you can use the new method but you'll have to turn off that Norton feature prior to the newer HOT restore function, then turn it back on when the restoration is complete (it's fully configurable <see HERE>).

    Personally, I think Norton is one of the biggest System resource hogs on the market and have little use for the overall product and all of its so called wiz bang features.
     
  4. TheRollbackFrog

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    Ratchet, the BOOT Time Protection just determines when the normal Norton AUTO PROTECTION SERVICE begins... early, earlier, earliest. Based on this, I would imagine that if you "excluded" the Time Machine software in the appropriate area of Norton, there may not be an incompatibility between the two.

    You should try it all ways (Normal, Agressive, Off) and see if the EXCLUSION solves the issue.

    Of course the real issue may be that the Norton APS running at the same level as AX64 may require information on the disk that AX64 is trying to restore... that could be a real problem.

    From what I've initially read, the AGRESSIVE setting of Norton BOOT protection may be the one that is most sensitive... NORMAL may not start the service until after the restoration/reBOOT has been done by AX64, and OFF doesn't start it 'til Winodws really starts. You'll have to play with this to find out.
     
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  5. ratchet

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    Thank you both for the replies! May mess with it over the weekend or perhaps not.
     
  6. Peter2150

    Peter2150 Global Moderator

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    Just make sure you have a good macrium setup to restore.
     
  7. TheRollbackFrog

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    I guess it depends heavily on the computer, which you're running it on.
    Cause it's not a resource hog on my laptop.. (Norton Security)
    Quad-Core with 12Gb ram,windows 10 64-bit