Freighter Was On Autopilot

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  1. EASTER

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    http://freebeacon.com/national-security/freighter-autopilot-hit-us-destroyer/

     
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    "The Usual Suspects" :

    "...Strategically, this collision takes away a critical Navy asset in the Western Pacific. Though Fitzgerald is one of the oldest Arleigh Burke-class destroyers in the U.S. fleet, he [sic] has been upgraded to perform Ballistic Missile Defense missions (all the more important given North Korea’s recent stunning advances in missile and nuclear technology) and is outfitted with the Navy’s most advanced anti-submarine warfare equipment..." **

    http://thediplomat.com/2017/06/us-w...ontainer-ship-limps-to-port-with-7-crew-lost/

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    "North Korea displays submarine-based missiles for first time as nuclear tensions with US rise"

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...-submarine-based-missiles-first-time-nuclear/

    NB:Notwithstanding that Bill Gertz [named as a source in The OP] is an Editor at the rightist Washington Times, owned by a wholly owned subsidiary of The Unification Church founded by Sun Myung Moon, and that he has a tendency to write semi-sensationalized columns, "inside the Beltway" he is highly regarded and has long been known to have deep, reliable sources within the intelligence community and The Department of Defense. He is not a conspiracy kook.
     
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    The freighter even after plowing into the side of it continued on autopilot and even gained more speed in the effort to free itself and keep on the computer's preprogrammed plotted track.

    This incident is indicative of the nature of protocol/software implimentations where computer guidance control can either accidently or by design from a rogue command center initiate deviations that can cause rapid changes resulting in severe consequences.

    Obviously too and just as disturbing from on the receiving end there appears to have been no early warning radius scope sweeping for just such or other marine vessels in open waters to alert to this impending event such as it ended up.
     
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    I was reading about that too and this is sounding scarier more every day. The article that I read said they would have still had radar and eyes watching in all directions when going through there. And so even if their GPS got targeted, some how their radar would have had been jammed.
     
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    "...There should have been lookouts on watch on the port, starboard and stern of the destroyer Fitzgerald — sailors scanning the horizon with binoculars and reporting by headsets to the destroyer’s bridge. At 1:30 a.m. last Saturday, off the coast of Japan south of Tokyo, they could hardly have failed to see the 730-foot freighter ACX Crystal, stacked with more than 1,000 containers, as it closed in.

    Radar officers working both on the bridge and in the combat information center below it should have spotted the freighter’s image on their screens, drawing steadily closer. And under standard protocol, the Fitzgerald’s captain, Cmdr. Bryce Benson, should have been awakened and summoned to the bridge to assure a safe passage long before the ships could come near each other...

    In addition ..., there is the peculiar course of the Crystal after the accident, recorded by ship-tracking websites. It raises the possibility that no one was ...at least aware of their surroundings, when the two ships hit..."

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/23/world/asia/destroyer-fitzgerald-collision.html?mcubz=3
     
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    One has to bear in mind that these large commercial vessels are on autopilot, with radar, unless entering / exiting port. And will take a great distance to change course.

    Destroyers will have much more sophisticated surveilllance, and are highly maneuverable. In both cases, bridges would be manned. In the last two cases the navy vessels were hit midships, or nearer the stern. Draw your own conclusions.

    The detailed facts will emerge, but I very much doubt that these navy vessels could be intentionally rammed; I suspect incompetence or recklessness on the naval vessels, rather than some sort of cybersecurity issue.

    Compare: If a 787 hit a fighter, what is the fighter doing there? Just my view (I do have some experience with merchant marine), but I'll zip up now.
     
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    "Worse than you thought: inside the secret Fitzgerald probe the Navy doesn’t want you to read...

    A scathing internal Navy probe into the 2017 collision that drowned seven sailors on the guided-missile destroyer Fitzgerald details a far longer list of problems plaguing the vessel, its crew and superior commands than the service has publicly admitted...

    Some radar controls [in the the combat information center, he destroyer’s electronic nerve center], didn’t work and ... crew members who didn’t know how to use them anyway.

    Fort found a Voyage Management System that generated more “trouble calls” than any other key piece of electronic navigational equipment. Designed to help watchstanders navigate without paper charts, the VMS station in the skipper’s quarters was broken so sailors cannibalized it for parts to help keep the rickety system working..."

    https://www.militarytimes.com/news/...erald-probe-the-navy-doesnt-want-you-to-read/

    This report torpedoes "The Hacking Theory."
     
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